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<ciggi> Hello! I have question related to Linux branch. Which Branch should I use for working USB as Asahi dart/dev kernel branch gives me 404. Used Asahi branchbut USB not working for m1-m1n1.
<j`ey> ciggi: 'asahi'
<ciggi> sorry I pasted from docs, Thanks for correcting me
<j`ey> docs are out of date for now
<ciggi> Thanks, I will try above kernel
<ciggi> which .dtb should I use? the one in build folder or in arch folder for .macho payload
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<marcan> fridtjof[m]: yes!
<marcan> not sure about the video ID, but I don't remember the Farnell/Element14 banners, so the one you have looks like a minor edit
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<Glanzmann> ciggi: If you want to run Linux: https://tg.st/u/asahi-debian-live.txt If you want a development setup: https://tg.st/u/asahi.txt If you want to build u-boot yourself https://tg.st/u/asahi-uboot-quickstart.txt
<Glanzmann> ciggi: No matter what you do, make sure that you build m1n1.macho or use the one from my website (which is the latest) https://tg.st/u/m1n1.macho and install that instead of stage2 (than you don't have to chainload all the time).
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<Glanzmann> marcan / fridtjof: The XO2 video is really funny. Thank you. I'm proud that my xo2 keeps me safe when my lid is closed ... ;-)
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<dianshi> Glanzmann: is all of that enought to do with 1 mac?
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<Glanzmann> dianshi: I don't understand you question, but yes, you can run marcans installer, replace step2 with u-boot and use my usb zip to have a debian live system. With the help of the debian live system you can install debian on your m1 or any other linux distribution that has a root.tar.gz lying around.
<Glanzmann> dianshi: I will add a video how to do that and polish the instructions more.
<Glanzmann> dianshi: That should allow you to install Debian within 20 minutes from scratch onto your m1.
<dianshi> Glanzmann: question was do i need only usb+mac to do all, i seen some instructions that i need 2macs so that the question
<dianshi> but sounds i need to try hehe, only will check how to restore stuff just in case =P
<Glanzmann> dianshi: So when you follow this guide: https://tg.st/u/asahi-debian-live.txt than yes.
<dianshi> cool
<Glanzmann> The asahi.txt guide is for the developer setup.
<Glanzmann> The uboot-quickstart explains how to build u-boot with m1n1 and configure your distribution to be efi bootable.
<dianshi> well i would like developer setup =]
<Glanzmann> dianshi: The developer setup requires a second machine to be able to control m1n1 remotely.
<dianshi> but that is needed only for some time right?
<dianshi> just to setup, after that no need?
<Glanzmann> dianshi: The developer setup assumes that you're using it constantly.
<Glanzmann> If you just want to install a linux distribution and work with it than this guide is for you https://tg.st/u/asahi-debian-live.txt
<dianshi> thanks thats clear now
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<mps> dianshi: switching between developer and 'end user' mode is not much complicated
<Glanzmann> I just have to polish it more so that it gives in detail instructions to install Debian, because most people will be out of there depth to pull it off out of the box.
<dianshi> well i whanted to try developer setup i have some expirience of DWC related stuff so whanted to poke it
<Glanzmann> dianshi: So the developer setup means that your write m1n1 code and python scripts and do kernel development.
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<dianshi> yes
<Glanzmann> But that requires two systems because everything else is too inconvenient.
<dianshi> one could be intel right?
<Glanzmann> dianshi: Yes, any Linux or macos system with a usb port.
<dianshi> ah i can use linux! cool then i have everything, i where thinking i need 2 macs
<Glanzmann> dianshi: But if you want a real developer setup you need two m1 macs or solder a logic board.
<Glanzmann> dianshi: 2 macs are needed if you want to debug the kernel without a hypervisor.
<dianshi> thanks thats also clear now, sounds i can start just to get familiar with user setup, then lin+mac and then if im still into it mac+mac
<Glanzmann> Yep.
<dianshi> i just whant to poke that DWC_USB3 code to see if i can handle it =]
<dianshi> by handle it means if i can even make it work in real world haha
<Glanzmann> I see.
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<landscape15[m]> Glanzmann: i need to install grub inside the 1GB vfat internal partition right? I ask because after running u-boot and selecting my USB it says it isn’t valid.
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<mps> landscape15[m]: no, you have to install grub on root partition
<DmitrySboychakov[m]> what is need to be done to support thunderbolt devices on m1/m1pro/max ?
<mps> on ESP is only /EFI/boot/bootaa64.efi is needed
<landscape15[m]> mps: ok thanks. So what is the 1GB vfat partition for?
<mps> landscape15[m]: it is EFI partition
<mps> or ESP, Efi System Partition
<landscape15[m]> mps: thanks. So I need it only if I want to boot from nvme
<mps> landscape15[m]: yes
<mps> you can boot from usb drive and setup grub on it to use nvme partition as root FS
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<Glanzmann> landscape15[m]: You have three partitions (the apfs stub partition the installer created, than a efi dos parition with grub and than your root partition with the kernel).
<Glanzmann> landscape15[m]: So yes, 1GB vfat is for the grub binary.
<Glanzmann> Which is of course less than 1 MB. But it also gives you room to store the wifi firmware and future additions.
<Glanzmann> For example you could put the debian live system on it, so you could use it in case your system is not bootable anymore.
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<tpw_rules> has anything interesting happened in the last couple weeks? i had a computer disaster and couldn't follow. i saw there was an update to the kernel a few days ago
<opticron> marcan has been working on the SMC recently which gives access to lots of system information (and probably more that I don't know about)
<Glanzmann> tpw_rules: kettenis gave us u-boot, but you already use that. povik has audio jack support on air and old 13' pro.
<tpw_rules> "gave us"?
<Glanzmann> tpw_rules: He implemented nvme support in u-boot.
<Glanzmann> tpw_rules: OpenBSD does no longer crash in SMP and has SMC.
<Glanzmann> wifi does work pretty well and is enabled by u-boot.
<tpw_rules> ah cool, i will have to figure out how to get that working in nixos then
<Glanzmann> tpw_rules: Marcan discovered some tech support binaries (see marcan42 twitter account).
<kettenis> tpw_rules hasn't been away that long!
<Glanzmann> kettenis: I think it was not publically known that you enabled pcie wifi in u-boot. And once people found out some of them (me) was not able to boot from nvme with it.
<Glanzmann> tpw_rules: Oh and marcans asahi branch currently misses three important commits. Two of them are here: https://tg.st/u/asahi.txt and one is in the last two commits here: https://github.com/jannau/linux/commits/bits/090-spi-hid
<Glanzmann> So two for spi (one crash and keyboard for air/pro) and the povik sound patch.
<Glanzmann> tpw_rules: I build a live system for debian which you can boot using u-boot and a usb stick and can be used for all sort of stuff including installing debian and other distributions which have root.tar.gz https://tg.st/u/asahi-debian-live.txt
<Glanzmann> It is a deboostrap with a symlink for init, empty root password, kernel installed cpioed and gziped into a initrd.
<tpw_rules> have you not tried my fancy iso nixos installer which does the same thing (minus wifi at this moment) :) ?
<Glanzmann> tpw_rules: Nope, of course not. You should have told me. :-)
<Glanzmann> tpw_rules: Fix the wifi already. :-)
<Glanzmann> tpw_rules: Btw. mine can also not do wifi because I can not redistribute the wifi firmware. But if you extract the wifi firmware and reload the modules it will work.
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<ciggi> @j`ey Hello, I tried jannau's defconfig, After inital boot it stuck at asahi linux logo. Running .macho file in hypervisor give me this log https://paste.debian.net/1227942/ .Thanks
<j`ey> ciggi: it depends how youre setup is, what distro youre using etc. simpledrm is compiled as a module with that config which means you need to have all the modules in the initramfs (assuming youre using one..)
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<ciggi> Thanks, I want to boot from external USB disk which already formated in ext4 and alarm (arch linux arm) extracted. I think I am missing initramfs that why it stuck. Can we pass argument, when we are running in hypervisor.
<j`ey> ciggi: cat build/m1n1.macho <(echo 'boot-args=<your args here>') Image.gz.. etc
<ciggi> Thank you so much
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<Glanzmann> marcan: What is the nvram support in m1n1 about?
<j`ey> Glanzmann: thats so that m1n1 will boot to u-boot or whatever payload by default, but you can set a bootarg and when you reboot it will boot to the proxyclient instead
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<Glanzmann> j`ey: I see. is the nvram a file on a filesystem or stored somewhere else?
<Glanzmann> j`ey: Now that we have nvme on m1n1, maybe we should also add keyboard support and ext4 support and msdos fs support on it. Wifi also does not hurt if you want to netboot. :-)
<j`ey> I think nvram is actually refering to the flash over spi1
<marcan> m1n1 will not gain any new code from this
<marcan> bootargs is passed by iBoot already
<marcan> -v is already a flag in the display struct
<marcan> we just check that and proxy or no proxy
<marcan> also proper nvme and msdos fs support will come at some point, to allow for m1n1/dt upgrades without going through 1TR
<marcan> but it's not a release blocker right now, at this stage
<Glanzmann> I see.
<marcan> there will definitely be no keyboard support or any other nonsense
<marcan> that is u-boot's domain
<marcan> the m1n1 upgrades thing is a special case that makes sense in the longer term
<marcan> (and not that much code, fatfs is easy to throw around so all we're missing is an actual nvme implementation, since we had to add RTKit for DCP anyway)
<Glanzmann> I see.
<Glanzmann> And the nvram support in m1n1 will be some flash area or a file on a fat?
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<marcan> as I said there will be no nvram support in m1n1
<marcan> nvram is already a thing on these machines
<Glanzmann> Oh than I misunderstood your comment on -dev
<marcan> we will simply use the nvram boot-args variable plus the boot-args filtering mode in bootpolicy to configure how m1n1 will boot
<marcan> m1n1 doesn't have to deal with nvram
<marcan> it just gets the boot-args passed to it
<Glanzmann> got it.
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<sven> Marcan: see mt
<sven> ugh
<sven> see my pull request. m1n1 has an actual nvme implementation now :D
<sven> that thing is surpassingly simple compared to usb and even rtkit
<Glanzmann> nvme done right. :-)
<marcan> sven: oh lol
<marcan> (did I mention I'll catch up on email tomorrow? :p)
<sven> no worries, that request is like 60 minutes old ;)
<sven> mainly built that one to investigate this dumb random write + flush thing in detail
<j`ey> sven: wow only 430 lines for the nvme driver
<sven> yeah, it’s like the opposite of usb
<sven> and that’s even with the weird apple quirks
<j`ey> sven: can you pastebin some sample output from this, if you have it handy?
<sven> sample output?
<j`ey> i mean from using the nvme_read() proxy command
<sven> not at my computer right now, but I can do that later
<j`ey> cool, no rush
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<j`ey> sven: neat!
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