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<chadmed> ive decided im gonna start documenting the fun and games to be had working on getting userspace audio up to scratch if anyones interested in following along at home
<chadmed> fun fact: linux audio is insane and needs to be nuked from orbit
<chadmed> as we will discover together :)
<opticron> given my experience with linux audio over the years, I'm going to blindly agree with you
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<j`ey> url doesnt load for me
<Chinese_soup> chadmed: cool thanks
<Chinese_soup> chadmed: it doesn't seem to load atm
<Chinese_soup> yea ^^^ that
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<chadmed> yeah let me sort that
<chadmed> DNS games
<ChaosPrincess> i've heard of slashdot-effect, hn effect and goonrush, now it is an asahi hug of death? :P
<chadmed> no its a me-enabling-slaac-on-my-new-router-and-forgetting-to-change-my-dns-records hug of death :P
<chadmed> eh give the magic port 53 computers a second to figure it out
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<chadmed> yeah there you go
<Chinese_soup> thanks
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<Whatdidyouexpect> /exit
<Whatdidyouexpect> god
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<psykose> god has exited
<Chinese_soup> It's over
<chadmed> nah im thinking we're back
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<dottedmag> chadmed: should the name resolve to 167.179.176.24?
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<psykose> chadmed: i really like your writing style
<psykose> good work
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<raph_ael> chadmed: linux audio is bdsm
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<handlerug> chadmed: "An history of microspeakers" a typo?
<ChaosPrincess> chadmed: is your website ipv6 only or sth
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<dottedmag> ChaosPrincess: looks like it
<bluetail42> sometimes I'm really happy I have this silent m1 mac mini machine, its sometimes at 100% load for days... and I wouldn't want that to be something loud
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<opticron> this has reminded me that I have not tested IPv6 on my new network...
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<marcan> chadmed: just a datapoint on "DSP is cheap now": I built my own speaker DSP based on an XMOS device (long story) a few years ago, and with three of their cores (which are pretty cheap) I could handle USB + SPDIF in + full matrix mixer + 6-channel speaker/room correction with 15 independent biquad EQ filters per channel at 96kHz (24bit I/O, 32bit fixed point DSP).
<marcan> not that I would recommend XMOS but it was a fun project :p
<marcan> oh yeah also 6ch analog in of course
<marcan> also correction: iBoot has full multichannel boot chimes, it uses all the speakers, not just the main woofers
<marcan> also I don't think I ever suggested sniffing around for macOS DSP stuff and putting it into the kernel? IIRC early on what I did suggest was taking impulse responses of whatever DSP macOS was doing and just using them in Linux (in userspace)
<marcan> i.e. playing back test tones in macOS and sniffing the speaker streams with the hypervisor
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<povik> yeah, i don't think we were ever considering doing anything but grabbing the impulse response of macOS by tracing in hypervisor
<povik> also how we source the DSP data is orthogonal to whether we apply it in kernel or userspace
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<povik> and the only reason i didn't go ahead with grabbing the responses (yet) is because you beat me to it in constructing an EQ setup anew by ear
<povik> but that's not necessary in conflict with your telling of the story...
<povik> *necessarily
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<ChaosPrincess> those writeups are still really cool, telling people how the process works and how to start doing it
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* povik is looking forward to the next one
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<chadmed> ohhh thats right it was someone else asking why we _couldnt_ do it in the kernel
<chadmed> also yes ipv6 only, my isp blocks 80 and 443 on ipv4 which is annoying but understandable
<chadmed> handlerug: its only a typo in freedom burger english, which i do not speak ;)
<psykose> burger tasty
<ChaosPrincess> my cable isp is ipv4 only, my telco is ipv4 only, and my vps host is ipv4 only :P
<ChaosPrincess> so, accessing that wasnt easy
<chadmed> oh sorry to hear that :(
<ChaosPrincess> ended up downloading cloudflare warp and using that
<chadmed> theres an isp in australia like that, and the funniest thing is every time a residential client asks them for ipv6 they immediately close the ticket and say "you dont need it wontfix"
<ChaosPrincess> oh, i called mine and they said '$5/mo extra', which is not much but still fuck you
<chadmed> woooow
<j`ey> can someone pastebin it? my home/vps is also ipv4 only it seems
<chadmed> thats actually pathetic
<chadmed> huh i didnt realise this was such a common issue, i thought we as a society had progressed beyond this
<ChaosPrincess> lol, no
<ChaosPrincess> unless you are maybe in yankeeland
<j`ey> I thought my vps had ipv6, but idk how to test
<ChaosPrincess> europe is kinda behind
<j`ey> (curl didnt work)
<ChaosPrincess> j`ey: check if you have ipv6 with ifconfig
<psykose> europe ran out of cables
<j`ey> ChaosPrincess: I do
<j`ey> inet6 fff...
<psykose> a real address or link-local/localhost
<j`ey> eth0
<psykose> that looks fake
<ChaosPrincess> j`ey: fff sounds like link local
<ChaosPrincess> real ones start with 2008
<psykose> lol
<j`ey> its fe08
<psykose> yep
<ChaosPrincess> link local
<psykose> local
<j`ey> inet6 fe80::
<j`ey> oh
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<psykose> i would pastebin it but the page isn't reachable for me anymore
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<chadmed> okay try that ipv4 friends
<chadmed> psykose: it was unreachable because i just asked my isp to unblock the ports and they needed to reset the connection
<psykose> classic
<chadmed> should be reachable over ipv4 now
<j`ey> guess it might take some time
<chadmed> oh yeah... fun thing about gentoo's net.xxx init.d scripts
<chadmed> they only run on init :P
<chadmed> ok there we go
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<abd> Is there anyway to prevent systemd from crashing when coming back from s2idle after 3 mintues? watchdog kills it for some reason.
<jannau> abd: yes, will be fixed by the cpuidle driver from the t602x/bringup branch
<abd> so there is nothing I can do now?
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