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<spuos_> I actually need to get in there, if anyone cold help out I'd be very thankful
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<nicolas17> spuos_: you would need to somehow tell uboot or grub to load a kernel and filesystem from USB storage
<nicolas17> you can't actually "boot from USB" like on a PC
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<cy8aer> I have a question about the version numbers of the kernel: I build the kernels with "make bindeb-pkg" and pre 6.8.6-x the kernel versions looked like 6.6.0-asahi-00907-ge2d908119dee, 6.8.x look like 6.8.6-asahi-gd03623e75c6b. This 00907 like subversion is missing.
<cy8aer> The problem I have is, that the grub config installer selects the first kernel alphabetically. But the gxxxx-Version is based on a hash so that it is not defined which kernel is selected first. With these 0907 like subversion this worked. But who and how can I now create these subversions?
<cy8aer> Or were they built on the linux source side before 6.8.6-x?
<chadmed_> i think this is something that is specific to the debian kernel package tooling
<chadmed_> the only version modification at the source tree level is -asahi
<cy8aer> Hm, let's see if I can do some artificial versioning number...
<cy8aer> But how do the update-grub scripts get the first kernel if alphabetically sorting does not work?
<cy8aer> or is it really 6.8.6-4-asahi-hash there?
<chadmed_> my kernels do not have the hashes in the version
<cy8aer> That seems to be some development thingie. Hm.
<cy8aer> Ok, I'll see what can be done there.
<jnn> the hash is generated with CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO
<jnn> (usually)
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<cy8aer> jnn: Ah, thanks
<cy8aer> But - I now found out: 6.8.6-4 does not reboot (6.8.6-3 does). Machine shuts down - and black screen, keyboard still alight.
<jannau> cy8aer: the numbers are added if the current HEAD is not a tag, for some reason you previously did not have the asahi-6.6-* tags but you have thhe tag asahi-6.8.6-4 and you're currently building that version
<jannau> cy8aer: which device? if the keyboard backlight is still on the machine is not shutdown, just the display is
<cy8aer> jannau: for the numbers: I understand and must see what happened. For the device: j314 (mbpro m1pro)
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<cy8aer> jannau: "Machine shuts down" was a bit wrong described. It is going down but does not really shut down, right
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<u154ss> @cy8aer et all. Just compiled 6.8.6-4 and it compiles clean, no boot/reboot problems (M2 Mini/Debian).
<cy8aer> (ah, my system is debian too..)
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<u154ss> @cy8aer https://git.g3la.de/repos/m1-debian is also good :)
<cy8aer> u154ss: you changed the version to 6.8.6-4 in my version right? - then it might be a problem of the m1 mbp...
<cy8aer> (i did not upload my new patches for 6.8.6-4 because it is not working for me 😉 )
<u154ss> @cy8aer "...to 6.8.6-4 in my version right" - yes.
<cy8aer> hm...
<cy8aer> Let's see if jannau finds something out.
<u154ss> @cy8aer that said, last Thursday on the M1 Mini compiling 6.8.6-3/4?, I am not sure any more, I has LLVM(17) compile errors which caused to abort. I do not have the exact messages texts as the machine is in another location.
<u154ss> I has = I had.
<u154ss> "which caused = which caused the compile"
<cy8aer> But it compiles without problems. And the "shut down" is ok, until the point where it should reboot. Then it hangs.
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<u154ss> @cy8aer maybe Jannau might be able to help (DCP etc.).
<cy8aer> right
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<u154ss> @cy8aer here is my .config if it helps https://file.io/Nl5UQukeLSo5 (All tracing/debug and a lot of drivers stripped out). I am running an M2 Mini with Debian Sid here.
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<cy8aer> u154ss: sorry, but it is already deleted ☚ī¸
<u154ss> Saw that... try https://easyupload.io/ma65m6
<cy8aer> got it. Thanks. Let's see...
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<cy8aer> for those who want to look after: This is my config: https://git.g3la.de/repos/m1-debian/src/branch/baer/config.txt
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<jannau> cy8aer: you have CONFIG_DRM_APPLE=y and CONFIG_DRM_APPLE=m, you might want CONFIG_APPLE_SIO=m
<jannau> the resulting config from the kernel build would be easier to analyse
<cy8aer> jannau: just a moment...
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<cy8aer> jannau: ^^ was a bit long, so needed my own artifacts server
<jannau> does the laptop reboots with "nomodeset" in the kernel command line? if yes does it still reboot "apple_drm.noaudio"? is with or without using the hdmi output?
<cy8aer> The laptop is solo, so not using the hdmi output. And just a moment, I need to test nomedeset...
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<cy8aer> Back again: it reboots with "nomodeset" but not with "apple_drm.noaudio" (the last without "nomodeset", right?)
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<cy8aer> And now I tested it with HDMI (on a tv) plugged in. There it does not reboot either (no boot options)
<jannau> yes. so this means failure to reboot could be caused by the display driver
<jannau> anything visible in the kernel logs (the issue possibly hapens after the rootfs is unmounted so logs won't be retained)
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<cy8aer> Nothing. It is really after the last output and systemd action. Everything is unmounted
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<cy8aer> Journalctl output https://paste.debian.net/1315417/
<cy8aer> but that is the normal shut down output
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<cy8aer> jannau: Crazy: It reboots if you hot plug HDMI.
<cy8aer> (after hot plugging HDMI and unpluging and working, the plugging does not occur a reboot of course)
<cy8aer> So: - boot into the kernel - plug in HDMI - unplug when a picture is on the second screen - reboot -> that works
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<j`ey> twitch+firefox struggles at 1080p, same for others?
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<spuos_> testdisk is a lot faster on linux for some reason, also I somehow fudged my ext4 as ufs in the installer
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<leio> j`ey: seems fine here, and per quick htop or so, feels like it'd be fine on something less powerful too
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<j`ey> leio: weird, 1080p on youtube is fine, maybe it's an internet speed thing but I thought my internet should be fine
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<bluetail> j`ey overall I felt the arch release was faster
<bluetail> but I digress
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<leio> j`ey: dunno, I just picked a random thing that was going at 1080p60 source, but it was just end credits and not much movement
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<leio> presumably AGX is working, and surely is if youtube is fine
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<leio> or at least as fine as it should be for youtube; llvmpipe did use 40% of all my cores, but it was "fine" too :)
<j`ey> well AGX wont be involved in this I guess
<j`ey> I'll try something a bit more static, this had quite a bit of movement
<leio> my GNOME is all GL, so it was involved at compositor level
<j`ey> yeah I just meant in the video bit itself
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<runxiyu> Quick question: What's the difference between the server and minimal installs? I'm going to reinstall without a desktop environment as I want to just build my standard swaywm environment without a desktop environment, and I'm not sure which one would be the most appropriate
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<j`ey> I went with minimal, since I think that's closer to the KDE/GNOME images
<j`ey> but didnt look too deep into it
<j`ey> after all, it's not a server I was installing
<runxiyu> Makes sense...
<runxiyu> I do want to know if the minimal installation includes wpa_supplicant such that it could connect to a WiFi, as I have no wired networking adapter for my macbook
<j`ey> it does
<runxiyu> yay
<runxiyu> thanks
<j`ey> you do need to install mesa though
<runxiyu> understood
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