08:48 <sam_> chadmed: is there any chance you can spend some time on my request on the nss bug

08:48 <sam_> i'm swamped but i can find time to look into it if I have a definite way to reproduce it

08:49 <sam_> but not to mess around atm trying to get to that point

08:50 <chadmed> sam_: i can have a play tomorrow night or perhaps later evening. from what i recall i didnt do anything special and at one point this was simply blocking me installing enough of a system to even reboot out of the livecd

08:50 <chadmed> ill make a fresh stage3 chroot later and see whats up though

08:50 <sam_> thanks a bunch

08:50 <sam_> I did try a bit but I couldn't get there and couldn't spend more time on it

08:51 <sam_> (I was trying on amd64 though and perhaps the original report is actually either different or the same thing but linked in a way we don't get, and your/leio's issue is suff. different that I was going about it the wrong way)

08:51 <sam_> I was telling leio, the actual thing which is crashing is *insanely* brittle

08:51 <sam_> and I'm not 100% convinced it's not snakeoil

08:51 <chadmed> its been years at this point since i even looked at an amd64 machine but i have a very fuzzy and vauge memory of this happening on a ryzen system i owned

08:52 <sam_> it's some FIPS signing BS but I have no idea how that can POSSIBLY be a thing if you're building from source where the source might change arbitrarily

08:52 <sam_> but of course crashing is bad

08:52 <sam_> just mean i wouldnt be surprised if nss is doing shenanigans

08:52 <chadmed> yeah i reckon its 1000% bullshit that we have to deal with it at all but both nss and ff unconditionally try to shlibsign in their builds

08:52 <chadmed> who would win in a fight FIPS vs /etc/portage/patches

08:53 <sam_> :)

11:18 <chadmed> sam_: couldnt repro with a clean stage3 + gcc. tried rebuilding xz-utils and zlib, then tried with -flto. nss builds fine in all cases

11:18 <chadmed> i can only assume there is some stupid ABI break with something else being built by clang? no idea

11:19 <sam_> it's fine if the instructions include "build X with clang first"

11:19 <sam_> also keep in mind that static libs include LTO gunk

11:20 <sam_> which may or may not be relevant

11:20 <chadmed> ill keep digging tomorrow its getting late. not yet at the stage of building with static-libs, just trying to get nss to fail without that first

11:20 <chadmed> next steps will be bootstrapping clang and then rebuilding zlib and xz-utils with it

11:27 <sam_> thanks

11:27 <sam_> if you can, please try to avoid introducing compiler-rt and libcxx and friends (of course zlib & xz-utils are C, but still)

11:28 <sam_> but if you need to and then have to backtrack to figure out what introduces it then so be it

11:28 <chadmed> i never use libcxx anyway

11:28 <sam_> ok :)