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<jannau>
too bad if you have to update the whole OS for driver updates
<jannau>
I could understand if touch id would require larger updates but for the rest?
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<chadmed>
kinda funny they move to a userspace-only driver model... then negate one of the major benefits of that by requiring 100 billion gigabyte immutable system volume updates to fix the font kerning in textedit.app
<jannau>
they have delta updates so it's not as bad
<chaos_princess>
even if it is a delta, having to do their version of verity still makes updates take forever, and it feels like the only engineer who knew how to do their RSR thing left.
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<david>
>Active Kernel Debugging on apple Silicon
<david>
@nickchan Active kernel debugging on Apple Silicon is currently disabled due to software restrictions. Although this limitation is software-based, re-enabling the necessary demotion registers—disabled by the boot ROM—would require a boot ROM exploit. An alternative approach is to use m1n1 for debugging purposes; however, it appears that m1n1 stops functioning on macOS 13.5 and
<david>
later, resulting in a boot loop. Does anyone have insights into why m1n1 is no longer compatible with macOS 14 and 15?
<chaos_princess>
m1n1 works on macos 13.5
<david>
what are the compatibility issues after 13.5?
<chaos_princess>
no idea, maybe different boot args structure, it defo changed for m3, so maybe it was also changed for m1/2 for later macos version
<chaos_princess>
and at least on 13.5 you had to add more macos boot args to make it not panic when doing something power management related, so maybe there is more of that in 14?
<chaos_princess>
there is also some exclave nonsense on leter machines, which is not emulated, so you have to fix that too
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<david>
so are we expection the m1n1 support for 14 or 15 in future?
<david>
expeting*
<david>
expecting**
<chaos_princess>
i dont see why not
<chaos_princess>
like, someone will have to do it, but i do not see any technical reason that would prevent it
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<nickchan>
david: yeah either boot ROM exploit or an iBoot1 img4 with DPRO tag flashed which is like impossible to get from TSS
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<nickchan>
chaos_princess: exclaves may not work properly for m1 under hypervisor
<nickchan>
exclave is a VM running under sptm
<nickchan>
but for macOS 14 - 15 it is *probably* fine
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<cy8aer>
by the way: does an update to macOS 15(.1) makes problems with an existing asahi setup mbp m1 pro 14''? I had read about problems at least with the mini.