05:36 <smokyrobinson> Naruto meets Samuel Garcia Sepulveda, governor of Nuevo Leon in Mexico! They hit it off and start an intimate and sexual relationship! Naruto does a sexual jutsu on his rectum and later donates his cum so that Mariana, Samuel's wife, gives birth to either green or blue eyed babies! Read about this hot love story here! https://justpaste.it/Naruto_Makes_Love_Samuel_Garcia

13:59 <mac> hey

13:59 <mac> how should I diagnose and what check if Fedora 38 with GNOME runs x11 instead of wayland?

14:24 <Shimmy[m]> <mac> "how should I diagnose and what..." <- Settings -> About should have the information you're looking for

14:31 <mac> well actually I know that it runs on x11 instead of wayland

14:31 <mac> but what I'm asking about is how can I diagnose why

15:44 <Oro> <mac> "but what I'm asking about is how..." <- Are you on NVIDIA?

15:45 <Oro> If that answer is a yes, then congrats, you've found the issue

16:03 <akik> on ubuntu gdm/gnome, is gdm the compositor in the display manager?

16:09 <mac> Oro: nope, Radeon 8490

16:10 <mac> Caicos HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6450 / 7450/8450/8490 OEM / R5 230/235/235X OEM]

16:10 <mac> sorry

16:10 <mac> Caicos XTX [Radeon HD 8490 / R5 235X OEM]

16:10 <mac> this one

16:11 <mac> akik: how can I check it?

16:12 <akik> mac: no idea, i'm asking the question

16:42 <wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !56 closed ([RFC] Add action binder protocol)

16:53 <kennylevinsen> akik: gdm is just a login manager, the GNOME compositor is mutter

16:55 <kennylevinsen> mac: maybe you need to pick gnome Wayland in your login manager? Otherwise I'd recommend asking in a GNOME channel, too specific for #wayland

16:55 <mac> sure

17:07 <akik> kennylevinsen: so when gdm starts, it's not using wayland, but x11 ?

17:09 <asetu> .

17:11 <akik> i tried to help some people on #fedora who say that their system failed to use wayland after upgrade from f37 to f38

17:11 <akik> and i don't know where to find the wayland log file

18:54 <kennylevinsen> akik: I don't think gdm uses either - it is its own display server

18:56 <akik> kennylevinsen: how can it be its own if it used xorg before?

18:56 <kennylevinsen> there is no such thing as a Wayland log - what you run is GNOME's Mutter, which is a Wayland server. But likewise, GNOME channel would be the appropriate place to ask

18:58 <akik> kennylevinsen: where does mutter log into?

18:58 <kennylevinsen> that is a question for a GNOME support channel

18:58 <akik> i'm just trying to understand how all this works

18:58 <kennylevinsen> Wayland is just a protocol, and #wayland is for development of these

18:59 <akik> i knew how xorg worked but now i'm kind of fumbling in the dark

19:00 <kennylevinsen> main difference is that unlike xorg, you don't *run* Wayland. If you use GNOME, GNOME is (or rather, their Muttet component) is now the display server.

19:00 <akik> ok thanks

19:01 <kennylevinsen> hence why I'm redirecting to GNOME support channels :)

21:27 <wlb> wayland-protocols Issue #142 opened by Rijnhard Hessel (rijnhard) Resolution change for full screen applications https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/issues/142

22:13 <wlb> wayland-protocols Issue #142 closed \o/ (Resolution change for full screen applications https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/issues/142)