ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput
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<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !397 opened by dcz dcz (dcz) Start an input-method protocol https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/397
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<davidawesome> First time using irc, can I ask questions about how I should implement things regaurding wayland here?
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<davidawesome> Not sure if this is compleatly wrong, but I wanted to try to make a program to proxy input in a subcompositor like gamescope to allow for users to limit access to input, thus allowing somewhat single gpu, single display multiseating under wayland
<davidawesome> I know this exist(ed) in x11 with xephyr and its --mouse option, but after the evdev backend was removed (I think) 12 years ago now, there has been nothing similar (even with xephyr's limited gpu accel)
<davidawesome> I see a few people who had previously used it to do what I am describing, and was wondering if there was a easy way to do this in a wayalnd subcompositor, eithor as a patch to gamescope (because this is mostlikely the use case for me), if it should be a diffrent program that proxies evdevs, or if it should proxy libinput data, even being a ldpreload replacement for libinput is a
<davidawesome> option. What do you guys think? Is this already done anywhere? How should I continue? Lmk if this is the wrong place, I dont use IRC (just downloaded a client), so I may be screwing somthing up. Sorry in advance :P
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<wlb> weston Merge request !1732 opened by Marius Vlad (mvlad) Weston 14.0.2 bug fixes https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1732
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<davidre> Can we now just ban that person?
<davidre> If I report someone on gitlab does it go to the coc team as well? (I just did that)
<emersion> it does
<dviola> davidre: who?
<davidre> kentrl
<davidre> went from posting ai comments, copy pasting old comments from other people, posting unhelpful commens and unrelated AI generated comments to now insulting comments
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<pq> gah
<dviola> I vote for banning "AI" in general (and everything associated to it)
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<llyyr> that gets us in a discussion about whether we should be banning users using LLM translators or not (we shouldn't)
<llyyr> but in this particular case, whether this user is using AI or human written text is irrelevant. It's spam even if written by authentic human hands
<dviola> llyyr: oh, I didn't realize there were some valid usecases
<llyyr> google translate has been using neural networks for almost a decade
<dviola> I see
<dviola> interesting
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<dviola> how much can realistically a motivated developer do in terms of "fixing" Xorg? I'm talking about metux, I've been reading his comments and think it's funny, but I was wondering about how much they can really do
<pq> #xorg-devel still exists, would be more on topic there.
<dviola> my bad, sorry... I'll take it there
<pq> sometimes people even talk there, but not metux
<dviola> oh
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<mahkoh> Could someone create a new wayland protocol release? I have a vulkan application that creates 100 wl_registry objects per second when being resized because mesa never destroys any of them.
<mahkoh> Ideally the fix for that would go into mesa 25.1.
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<kennylevinsen> mahkoh: yikes o.O
<daniels> misyl_ had a patch to improve that in Mesa but I think someone else needs to take that over
<mahkoh> [ 561029.224] {mesa present modes query} -> wl_display#1.get_registry(new id wl_registry#5651)
<mahkoh> [ 561029.507] {mesa present modes query} -> wl_display#1.get_registry(new id wl_registry#5620)
<mahkoh> [ 561029.918] {mesa formats query} -> wl_display#1.get_registry(new id wl_registry#5648)
<mahkoh> [ 561030.295] {mesa formats query} -> wl_display#1.get_registry(new id wl_registry#5643)
<mahkoh> etc. etc.
<mahkoh> daniels: that patch would improve performance but wl_fixes is required if the WSI user is ill-behaved and the registry cannot be cached
<mahkoh> which is might be in this case
<daniels> mahkoh: yeah, agree that we really need both
<mahkoh> Would it be ok to copy the current wayland.xml into mesa to get https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/29140 into 25.1?
<daniels> we can’t make a hard dependency - it needs to be #ifdef’ed until the end of time
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<wlb> wayland Merge request !468 opened by M. Stoeckl (mstoeckl) protocol: elaborate on drm_fourcc.h and wl_shm.format codes https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/-/merge_requests/468
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<davidawesome> Hey guys, sorry if this is wrong because I disconnected on accident so not sure if I lost any responses to my previous question about libinput and using a subcompositor with limited input devices to allow for single monitor / gpu mutliseating under wayalnd (similarly to somthing existing in xephyr (x11 subdesktop solution with gpu accell). I was wondering the best way to do this as a
<davidawesome> program or if it exists. Please message if this is the wrong location, have any questions, or answers. Thanks :)
<davidawesome> New to IRC, so let me know if I am in the wrong place, or doing anything wrong