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<chadmed> hm interesting
<chadmed> i added some floating point divisions and FMAs to the "power virus" thing i was working on
<chadmed> and the supposed "cluster power" on the firestorm cores goes ballistic whereas the icestorm cores dont seem to be affected at all
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<kettenis> looks like I missed most of the fun yesterday
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<chadmed> if anyone's feeling like doing some testing, i've pushed some devicetree updates for t8103 and t600x that enable EAS with no extra changes. i've been testing myself on a t6000 for ~2 months
<chadmed> results so far: slightly cooler running machines, ~2ish hours of extra battery life, no performance regression in day to day tasks, stable
<chadmed> would be nice to get a bigger sample size than 1 though
<chadmed> since the cpufreq driver already registers the energy model if the data is in the device tree, you can just build the DTs from this branch and put them on top of linux-asahi and itll work as long as the module loads
<marcan> (moving from #asahi) re MTP on the t8112, looks like they moved one of two firmwares wholesale from the trackpad to the M2 indeed
<marcan> looks like the usual standard ASC, probably with a very simple interface, like NVMe, and then they moved the actual SPI stuff to a dockchannel
<j`ey> chadmed: nice work!
<marcan> I already looked at dockchannel way back. it's a very, very simple interface, just two FIFOs you read and write bytes from
<marcan> and some IRQs I guess
<marcan> main question is how do we organize this in our devicetree/drivers
<j`ey> what do you mean 'to the M2'?
<marcan> like inside
<marcan> it's a copro now
<j`ey> ah
<marcan> in principle, there are three independent pieces of code here: the RTKit/ASC stuff, the dockchannel driver, and the consumer which just exposes HID over dockchannel
<marcan> does Linux have any subsystem abstraction that fits dockchannel? it's... like a serial port but even dumber
<marcan> basically "character device but in the kernel"
<j`ey> yeah, drivers/soc/apple :P
<marcan> :p
<marcan> but yeah, what I'm wondering is how to structure this in the DT. dockchannels exist without an associated ASC (e.g. the debug one), hypothetically we could have multiple dockchannels handled by one ASC...
<marcan> the ASC needs to be at least some kind of device link to everything else so they know when the other side is up
<marcan> but other than that... different nodes?
<marcan> for NVMe we made everything one node (unlike apple), which may or may not have been the right decision given NVMe does not really talk to the ASC, but at least AIUI there are some debug commands that go via the DART address space so that's some argument for how we did it there
<marcan> but in this case I get the feeling the dockchannel driver should not be kicking the ASC itself
<sven> yeah, all debug commands use SART
<sven> now we could've added a ASC node and then attach SART to both that ASC and NVME but meh..
<marcan> right...
<sven> btw. do you know where that cal-blob for wifi comes from on ACPI platforms?
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<sven> bluetooth really needs it to actually work and I figured I'd just add T2 support while i'm at it
<marcan> on ACPI it's in ROM, we don't need to load it
<sven> oh, nice!
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<marcan> (no idea if BT is different, hope not...)
<sven> i'll just assume it's the same for now. if only BT scanning works but pairing or connecting times out on T2 we'll have to go look for it there as well
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<mps> chadmed: if it is enough to just rebuild DT I could try this evening on mbp (j293)
<mps> chadmed: and which module have to be loaded, I didn't understood
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<chadmed> mps: you just need the apple cpufreq driver to work. for me it wouldnt load automatically and i had to make a rule for it in modules-load.d so just make sure its actually loaded with lsmod
<marcan> sven: what do you think about creating a "simple rtkit" device that is really just a no-op, that other devices can depend on via producer/consumer type stuff?
<marcan> we'd end up with a compatible like this:
<marcan> "apple,t8112-mtp", "apple,t8112-asc4-helper", "apple,asc4-mtp", "apple,asc4-helper"
<marcan> (maybe)
<marcan> just binding to apple,asc4-helper for now, the -mtp versions are in case it turns out we need some MTP-specific RTKit level nonsense after all in the future, and the t8112 variants the usual SoC specific compatibles
<mps> chadmed: ah, ok. I already have it loaded. I'm using conservative governor
<marcan> (cc robher)
<j`ey> chadmed: did you need any Kconfig options for EAS? (after a quick grep I dont see any, so I guess it's always there)
<marcan> then the dockchannel... that should probably be something like i2c/spi, with a parent dockchannel device and a child node that represents the consumer?
<marcan> (possibly multiple if we have multiple dockchannels or need to group them for some reason)
<marcan> with a link to the helper rtkit device, just to make sure it's up first
<marcan> actually the link would be to the dockchannel consumer
<marcan> since dockchannel doesn't care if the ASC is up, the HID interface on top does
<marcan> another potential dockchannel consumer would be a simple tty/uart device (that would expose the debug dockchannel)
<chadmed> j`ey: CONFIG_ENERGY_MODEL and the schedutil governor is all you should need for it to work
<j`ey> marcan: Im a bit confused how the dockchannel and ASC relate here. is it that the ASC/rtkit is just to boot up the coproc (I think similar to how the nvme asc is booted but never talked to from the driver), and the dockchannel is the actual communicatiom from the main CPU to the ASC? (and the ASC contains the actual SPI driver)
<marcan> correct
<marcan> dockchannel is a dumb fifo between the coprocessors, which is used here in lieu of RTKit mailbox stuff for the actual touchpad
<j`ey> marcan: thanks and chadmed thanks
<marcan> it replaces SPI from the point of view of the OS
<marcan> the ASC contains the actual SPI driver but it doesn't talk the old protocol, it talks some lower level whatever to the raw chip
<marcan> the ASC is doing all the trackpad multitouch algorithmic magic, force touch, etc
<mps> chadmed: also I had to add it to /etc/modules to be loaded
<mps> uhm, sorry
<mps> (looked at backlog)
<j`ey> marcan: I wonder why they went with dock channel here rather than rtkit
<marcan> *shrug*
<marcan> someone said "give me something like a SPI/whatever uart" and they had dockchannel lying around
<chadmed> mps: youll need to change to the schedutil governor btw, wont work with conservative
<mps> chadmed: yes, I see
<marcan> ah, I found the Broadcom firmware for the M2. It's still there, just next to the touch bar firmware for some silly reason.
<marcan> that one shrank too
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<marcan> so it looks like they moved a big pile of functionality from the STM32 and BCM5976 alike into the ASC. Not sure if they kept the same STM32 or it's a smaller one now. Both firmwares are tiny compared to the originals.
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<sven> marcan: I guess that'll work for anything that more-or-less treats rtkit stuff as something like a clock or power domain. we might also need some way to trigger a rtkit reset then
<mps> chadmed: is it possible to somehow see improvements or just experience
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<chadmed> you could A/B test with the old DT and compare battery life but its hard to create a reproducible workload that will sufficiently challenge the scheduler, its mostly an experience thing
<chadmed> the machine should be cooler and the battery life should be longer which is what matters anyway
<sven> marcan: btw., which broadcom chip does the M2 use? still 4378/4387?
<mps> chadmed: yes, I will try to follow battery status. and on these external temperatures I don't think I could 'feel' differences :)
<mps> chadmed: scaling_governor should be schedutil?
<mps> for both cores?
<chadmed> yeah
<mps> good, already set it
<mps> thanks
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<sven> [CHG] Device XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX Alias: Sven’s AirPods
<sven> [bluetooth]# pair XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
<sven> Attempting to pair with XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
<sven> Pairing successful
<sven> now if it would only also play music on them :D
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<sven> looks like there's still something broken
<rowang077[m]> Well maybe BT audio is not the best peripheral to test with in Linux :p I have nothing but bad experience with it tbh
<sven> i have nothing else to test it with and these airpods works with my other non-apple linux machine
<sven> *work
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<Jamie[m]> i wonder if the bluetooth firmware has some apple customisations which are negotiating something special with airpods
<Jamie[m]> that linux doesn’t expect
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<sven> i'm pretty sure this is just some bug in my driver
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<Jamie[m]> alright haha
<rowang077[m]> You have to at least do some magic things
<rowang077[m]> v
<sven> *sigh*
<sven> <sven> i have nothing else to test it with and these airpods works with my other non-apple linux machine
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<sven> the main issue probably is device -> host IPC. i don't quite understand the idea behind that mess yet
<sven> there's a transmission and a completion queue and device->host IPC works by putting an entry on the completion queue (nope, this doesn't make sense) and then the host advances the non-existing transmission queue (this also doesn't make sense)
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<sven> I think the "advance the non-existing transmission queue" is their hack to generate an interrupt on the device
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<j`ey> sven: is there any buttons like volume control, just thinking about some other intercation you could try
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<sven> nah, this is 99% something dumb. There’s something broken with how I handle these ipc queues
<sven> hci traffic works fine but audio goes over a different pipe that behaves slightly different
<sven> i can see that something goes horribly wrong with btmon ;)
<j`ey> is that a wireshark-like thing?
<sven> yeah, tcpdump for Bluetooth
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<sven> aaaand it works 😌
<j`ey> sven: woo, so was itsome IPC issue?
<sven> yeah, and maybe also an issue with the calibration blob
<sven> i sent the wrong one because strcmp returns 0 when the strings are equal and had an if(strcmp(…))
<j`ey> ah yes, done that one before
<sven> oh, and the MAC address was byteswapped but I doubt that actually caused any issues
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