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<comex>
even on Linux all package managers suck ;)
<winocm>
same
<comex>
the only one that comes close to not sucking is Nix, but Nix is like, a super elegant concept with a horrible implementation
<comex>
you can't even cross compile
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<Hakon>
implementing cpu startup today? this is gonna be interesting :D
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<ar>
comex: I'm regularly building stuff for some of my arm boxen on NixOS… with the help of binfmt_misc
<JTL>
ar: but that's emulation with performance overhead
<ar>
yes. but still faster than the arm boxen i have now
<JTL>
IME, natively cross compiling packages for different arches breaks certain assumptions of certain build systems
<JTL>
so yeah
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<dottedmag>
comex: So I'm not the only one who has this opinion about Nix, that's a relief. I was beginning to lose my sanity listening to Nix fanboys — they all said in unison the implementation is great.
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<j`ey>
can anyone give a quick summary of the stream?
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<davidrysk[m]>
j`ey: documenting the various HID registers / chicken bits
<davidrysk[m]>
basically, Apple-specific registers that are used for Apple-specific features, or to turn CPU features on and off (e.g. if they're broken)
<davidrysk[m]>
(also see "chicken bits")
<jn__>
in ARM in general not so much (AFAIK), but in apple arm
<davidrysk[m]>
right,
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<bastilian>
weird question, but why call it "chicken bits"?
<j`ey>
in case they chicken out of using a feature
<Milo>
I have some experience in XNU drivers (and was thinking abotu "porting" some over), and I was wondering if Rust is allowed in the code-base of the Linux fork, or if it's just C. Sorry if you've already seen this message, it's my first time using IRC, and the logs didn't seem to record the message I sent a while ago.
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<j`ey>
milo: Rust isn't allowed
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<j`ey>
since it's not allowed upstream (yet)
<hir0>
milo: There was a talk at the Linux Plumber's Conference this year about in-tree rust which may be of interest to you