marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | General project discussion | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<dsR1904> hi, I would like to contribute to this project somehow. I can Py/ObjC/C, read x86 but learning ARM, M1 is arriving next week
<jn__> dsR1904: hey, welcome! stick around :)
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<dsR1904> jn__ thanks, will do :)
<jn__> python and C are certainly useful for dealing with m1n1
<dsR1904> I can do more stuff like instrumenting binaries using FRIDA but unsure if that is gonna be helpful, ordered M1 mac mini just gotta keep waiting since it's custom config
<maz|> dsR1904: I got mide delivered in less than 10 days (custom config as well).
<maz|> mine*
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<dsR1904> mazl ordered mine last friday but still not shipped, ships from NL as far as I know
<maz|> dsR1904: mine shipped from China after about a week, and was in the UK 3 days later.
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<roxfan> I wonder why they aren't threatening Apple with their x86 emulation patents like they did to MS few years ago
<balrog> roxfan: which ones? didn't the useful ones run out (and Apple doesn't emulate AVX)?
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<arnd> maybe it's not really a coincidence that microsoft and apple both start emulating 64-bit x86 around the same time, after years of only 32-bit emulation in windows on arm
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<arnd> https://www.blopeur.com/2020/04/08/Intel-x86-patent-never-ending.html links to an sse3 patent expiring in 2026, sse2 would clearly be earlier than that, but may not be expired yet. Which of these are actually emulated in rosetta2?
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<roxfan> Rosetta translates all x86_64 instructions, but it doesn’t support the execution of some newer instruction sets and processor features, such as AVX, AVX2, and AVX512 vector instructions.
<jannau> I think everything including SSE4 is emulated
<roxfan> yeah probably all except avx+
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<roxfan> https://ffri.github.io/ProjectChampollion/part2/ points at the code doing the translation
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<jannau> emulated sse3 has clear impact on av1 decoding times with x86 dav1d under rosetta2
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