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<flower_>
test
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<flower_>
I'm a bit confused by xdg-tools, like xdg-desktop-menu
<flower_>
It seems to install to /usr/share/applications by default. But sometimes this should be /usr/local/share one would think
<flower_>
Then there is also desktop-file-install, which can specify a DIR
<flower_>
Other issue: xdg-icon-resource doesn't give an error when the icon does not exists.
<flower_>
It could be me, but it seems strange that these tools doesn't comply to Unix standards
<flower_>
At least Arduino and Processing are now installing *.desktop files to /usr/share/applications instead of /usr/local/share, thanks to xdg tools
<flower_>
It's quite normal on unix/linux to post an error, when there is an error right?
<flower_>
I'm a bit flabbergasted that I've to report this tbh
<flower_>
it's very hard in general to contact freedesktop people it seems
<flower_>
I tried the mailinglist, nothing.
<daniels>
mostly that's an artifact of those tools not really seeing much active work
<flower_>
hm it freaks me out a bit tbh. If these tools which are made to comply to standards, causes applications to do the wrong thing or doesn't comply to normal Unix rules (print a error when there is error)... I'm getting a bit pessimistic.
<flower_>
But I'm not an expert, so let's hope it's just my ignorance.
<daniels>
they’re not absolutely perfect in every way
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<flower_>
it's simple stuff. There are no excuses for it. People are firm when they ask to comply to xdg standards. Then people should expect such simple things to work.
<flower_>
and that these tools doesn't implement errors that are exactly the opposite of what the project is trying to achieve
<flower_>
but I've reported the issues. I'll complain to them.
<flower_>
But this doesn't give freedesktop.org a good image.
<daniels>
well, if there are no excuses, I look forward to your patches to fix it. it’s a community project.
<flower_>
no, that's exactly the problem
<daniels>
if you’d prefer it to be a commercial project, you could fund it
<flower_>
the person who is responsible for that tool, should do it right or shouldn't do it at all.
<flower_>
ask Red Hat ;)
<flower_>
lots of these stuff comes from them I suppose?
<flower_>
At least some guys seems to work for Red Hat
<daniels>
you could speak to your Red Hat account manager or sales contact
<flower_>
it too easy daniels
<flower_>
the standard should be lifted
<flower_>
:)
<flower_>
seriously
<flower_>
have a good day, it's probably not fair to rant you ;)
<flower_>
cheers!
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<danvet>
daniels, man why did you even try
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<imirkin>
surprising that people (who know to reach out on irc) have such a misconception of how open source software development is done.
<daniels>
if they think that there are 'no excuses' for that, wait till they see other software
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