#freedesktop on 2024-02-08 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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10:53 <sima> emersion, is google rejecting ffwll.ch mails from dri-devel or just in the queue somewhere still? seems to have dropped stuff since yesterday-ish looking at archives ...

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10:54 <emersion> sima: do you have the subject?

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10:54 <emersion> sima: mail sent by you to the ML, appears in the archive but not in google?

10:54 <sima> emersion, appears even on lore but not on my account (which is gapps)

10:55 <sima> https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/d4fa26cdb32371ce7981cc87203859c10e9e868a.camel@linux.intel.com/T/#t example thread

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10:56 <emersion> sima, ok, so sent by someone else but not receive by you

10:56 <emersion> right?

10:57 <emersion> my email server says that DKIM passes for this one

10:57 <sima> emersion, yeah

10:57 <sima> or at least that's as much as I can see here

10:58 <sima> just wondering whether it's still in a retry loop on the fd.o side or whether I need to move away from google for fd.o lists because it started to just randomly drop most of it

10:58 <sima> apparently k.org has become really bad at being able to deliver to google/gapps

10:58 <emersion> hm yeah we have 660 mails deferred for gmail.com

10:59 <sima> ok I guess I'll wait then

11:00 <emersion> logs tell me that at least _some_ emails get through

11:01 <emersion> i must admit, most of the time i'm not in the mood to go to great lengths to investigate GMail-specific issues

11:01 <sima> yeah just got another one, might have been temporary and I just need to wait until it's all flushed out

11:01 <sima> emersion, oh yeah I understand, eventually I need to switch around to something else

11:01 <emersion> i tend to try a lot harder with other providers :)

11:01 <sima> lore has pop support now for all the lists, that might work

11:01 <emersion> yeah, i don't want to force anyone or anything, just saying GMail is a pain :P

11:02 <emersion> i'll keep an eye on the queue

11:02 <sima> thx

11:03 <emersion> oh....

11:03 <emersion> there it is

11:03 <dwfreed> it can help if you have a filter in your gmail to never send the emails to spam

11:03 <emersion> Gmail has detected this message exceeded its quota for sending 421-4.7.28 messages with the same Message-ID. To best protect our users, the 421-4.7.28 message has been temporarily rejected. For more information, go to 421 4.7.28 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 y11-20020a056808130b00b003bddb6598a1si1545410oiv.263

11:04 <dwfreed> oh, that would be an issue too

11:04 <dwfreed> postfix especially seems to arbitrarily split outgoing mails into separate items

11:05 <sima> dwfreed, I do have filters for all the lists, is there an explicit flag for "never mark this as spam"?

11:05 <emersion> daniels: do you have a Gmail Postmaster Tool account?

11:05 <dwfreed> sima: yes

11:06 <emersion> sima, here it's rejected outright, so i don't think any filter would help

11:06 <sima> dwfreed, oh never noticed, thanks a lot

11:06 <emersion> "Here at Gmail, we work very hard to fight spam"

11:06 <emersion> ahahah

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11:06 <dwfreed> the AI works really hard, at least

11:06 <emersion> i wonder why 95% of our spam comes from GMail

11:06 <dwfreed> only on the inbound, though

11:07 <emersion> right

11:07 <dj-death> anybody knows why this build has failed? : https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/jobs/54780396

11:08 <dj-death> ah meson error on prog_intel_clc

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11:09 <sima> ok I checked the never-spam box for hopefully all fd.o list filters

11:10 <sima> emersion, so maybe something you can unclog this time around?

11:10 <emersion> not sure we can do anything about it

11:10 <dwfreed> the message ID quota failure mentioned above is going to still be an issue

11:11 <daniels> emersion: OH

11:11 <daniels> it's showing data now!

11:11 <daniels> finally ...

11:11 <sima> emersion, yeah no worries, stuff seems to still be coming in ...

11:11 <daniels> so, our user-reported spam rate is either 0.0% or 0.1%

11:12 <daniels> our IP reputation is consistently medium

11:12 <daniels> no data on domain reputation

11:12 <daniels> 100% DKIM/SPF success rate, 99.8% DMARC success rate

11:12 <emersion> nice

11:13 <daniels> ... and our delivery error rate going between 35-50%

11:13 <emersion> "nice"

11:13 <emersion> does it show any more insights why it's so high?

11:14 <daniels> does this count as insight? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/1cHLt5t7/image.png

11:15 <emersion> i like how the "top" reason is "rate limit exceeded" with 0.1%

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11:15 <dj-death> people have recommendations about the ASAN issues with the LLVM packages from the debian-testing images? : https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/jobs/54780397

11:16 <dj-death> do I need to essentially build my generation program outside so that it's not subject to ASAN

11:25 <pq> there is also ASAN_OPTIONS env var, maybe that helps running it?

11:25 <dj-death> yeah maybe

11:25 <dj-death> looks like I need to do a host build anyway

11:26 <dj-death> generate an intel_clc binary and then use that in the cross builds

11:26 <dj-death> is there something like that already happening?

11:26 <pq> if it's a build-time generator program, then yeah, naturally

11:26 <dj-death> yeah

11:26 <dj-death> generates serialized NIR

11:27 <dj-death> would be great if there was an example of that already

11:27 <dj-death> I could just replicate that setup

11:29 <daniels> emersion: yeah, helpful isn't it

11:29 <daniels> dj-death: I would assume that intel_clc is somehow invoking the core clc bit wrong

11:30 <pq> well, not host build but a build build. I don't know of examples, wayland-scanner is slightly differently handled.

11:33 <dj-death> daniels: I would not be surprised if there was some uninitialized values in LLVM releases ;)

11:34 <dj-death> pq: yeah, I need to build the same mesa (maybe stripped down a bit) and keep the resulting binaries around

11:36 <dj-death> also why is debian-testing-asan failing with :

11:36 <dj-death> ==7967==ASan runtime does not come first in initial library list; you should either link runtime to your application or manually preload it with LD_PRELOAD.

11:36 <dj-death> debian-testing-msan does not have that problem

11:38 <dj-death> any idea what is wrong with this other job : https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/jobs/54780395 ?

11:38 <dj-death> oh it's the missing option again

11:41 <dj-death> looks like debian-android builds twice

11:41 <dj-death> and there is an install of the first iteration

11:44 <daniels> one for aarch64 and one for x86-64

11:44 <daniels> the x86-64 build fails because it can't find libclc

11:44 <daniels> which I'm guessing is due to it building iris which is newly requiring libclc

11:45 <dj-death> yeah I have a meson bug about that

11:45 <dj-death> fixed locally

11:46 <dj-death> looks like what I would like is to upload intel-clc into the artifact

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12:46 <MrCooper> sima: I noticed that your dri-devel subscription got delivery disabled (presumably due to gmail bounces) at some point, did you re-enable it?

12:59 <jani> anyone else seeing a lot of apparently unnecessary fetching of git objects when fetching gitlab git repos?

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13:02 <jani> seems to me a 'git remote update' with a remote for git@gitlab.freedesktop.org:drm/xe/kernel.git occasionally has to receive huge amounts of objects

13:02 <jani> remote: Enumerating objects: 9980005, done.

13:02 <jani> daniels: ^

13:02 <jani> demarchi: ^

13:07 <daniels> at a guess, either you or someone uploading is repacking the repo aggressively?

13:11 <vsyrjala> dim/git also reported '(force update)' for xe the other day to me. i thought that only happens when someone force pushes, and i thought we're never supposed to force push to these?

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13:12 <vsyrjala> i did also get a huge fetch from the xe repo last week

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13:51 <demarchi> jani: I haven't seen it lately

13:51 <demarchi> jani: last time was due to git protocol version and bugs with git versions

13:52 <demarchi> jani: what's your git version?

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14:05 <daniels> vsyrjala: sounds like someone force-pushed then?

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14:36 <kxkamil> gmail is complaining on Cc addresses, now about ffwll.ch

14:37 <kxkamil> it 'thinks' it is spam...

14:41 <sima> MrCooper, oops, thanks for pointing out and I re-enabled with the "set globally" flag, so hopefully I'm back

14:45 <jani> demarchi: git version 2.39.2

14:59 <MrCooper> kxkamil: gmail as in your gmail UI, or as in gmail sends bounces mentioning that?

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15:02 <sima> emersion, do you know when the archive txt.gz files get regenerated? the one for dri-devel seems outdated compared to the web view

15:02 <sima> trying to fill the missing message since I get them now again

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15:03 <emersion> hm, i don't know

15:03 <emersion> you can grab the mbox file from lore

15:04 <kxkamil> bounced after mail sent to igt-dev ML, with quite a few cc

15:11 <demarchi> jani: and are you seeing that frequently?

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15:11 <demarchi> just tested on my end.... remote: Total 144 (delta 128), reused 132 (delta 116), pack-reused 0

15:12 <jani> demarchi: enough to catch my attention, once a week maybe?

15:13 <demarchi> any chance of testing with 2.43? that's what I'm using and not seeing it, but may not be related

15:18 <jani> the weird thing is I've never really faced this with non-gitlab repos

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15:50 <dj-death> daniels: do you know on top of your head the command I would have to run locally the debian-android build from this https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/jobs/54797382 ?

15:52 <__tim> Anyone around with root on annarchy? I need some files nuked in the gstreamer dirs, but they were uploaded with wrong permissions and the person who did that is away for the weekend :)

15:54 <bentiss> __tim: shoot me :)

15:56 <__tim> bentiss, basically rm -rf '/srv/gstreamer.freedesktop.org/public_html/data/pkg/osx/1.23.1/' (1.23.1 directory + contents)

15:57 <bentiss> __tim: done

15:57 <__tim> Thank you!

15:57 <bentiss> no worries :)

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19:53 <eric_engestrom> @fdo admins: not sure if you have done something specific, but gitlab actions like creating/deleting pipelines and enabling jobs just became a lot snappier 👏

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