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https://i.imgur.com/iPfUZET.png MLO on 5GHz is enabled if theyre shilling this 2x 160+80, so 2882+1440, doesnt seem to be that "puncturing" feature but no idea really.
<robimarko>
Looks like they reused the AX9000 case
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and theyre comparing it against that
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since AX9000 has that w6 with 4k qam
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so 2882 on 2x 160, hell yeah if you add an 80 on the top it will be 50% fasterer
<\x>
10GbE isnt 2x SFP+, its RJ45 + SFP+
<robimarko>
Does it have a name?
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Xiaomi Router 10000
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thats it, they cant even put BE10000 I guess
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either because its pre certified or it doesnt sound good.
<robimarko>
They most likely cant as officially 802.11be does not exists
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tp link went with BE-speed on theirs though
<robimarko>
Its still in drafts, maybe in the end of next year they ratify the final
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but yeah, doesnt sound cool I guess
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1799 cny, so 250$, what do you think of the price? doesnt sound bad to me...
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<robimarko>
Price is good as always
<T-Bone>
dear lord that thing is ugly
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<robimarko>
It looks better in person
<T-Bone>
lol
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>he doesnt have a demon altar to put his doom slayer figurine on
<f00b4r00>
yeah it could totally be a prop for the next horror movie
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mebbe acwifi is gonna do a teardown, maybe we'll see on chinese holidays.
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<robimarko>
f00b4r0: Well, home users dont need it for sure
<robimarko>
acwifi is gonna be the first to teardown, they always do
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quite a splurge on the cpu cores though, is that really needed?
<f00b4r0>
robimarko: no. But 'Pioneers of Tomorrow™' do ;)
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4x 2.2GHz A73
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<robimarko>
I am personally glad they finally moved from the damn A53 cores
<robimarko>
\x: Have you seen TP-Link XDR-6086 with a decent price anywhere
<robimarko>
That thing is really interesting
<\x>
i think soxrok2212 bought his on aliexpress
<f00b4r0>
i can't help but notice that wifi7 looks very much like cellular on wifi spectrum
<\x>
I can look on taobao but you see, you cant get direct from taobao.
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<robimarko>
Taobao is not interesting
<robimarko>
Looks like there is XDR-6010 with MT7986 as well
<robimarko>
But in a budget pacakge
<\x>
acwifi has a list of that series, XDR-xxxx, just look for it
<\x>
current meme on chinese forums are MT7981 stuff since some ISPs there are selling them
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its a cutdown of 7986, literal half, so AX3000 and dual core A53.
<robimarko>
Honestly, 7981 is way too cut down
<robimarko>
Price for sure wont be reduced by half as well
<\x>
yup, coremarks around 8800 multicore.
<\x>
ah nah
<\x>
price is less than half
<\x>
but features are too cut down, no variant with usb yet so not interesting to me.
<\x>
MT7986 XDR-xxxx series, AX6000+ goes for 600 cny and above
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MT7981, goes for 150~190 cny.
<\x>
way cheaper
<robimarko>
Now we just have to wait for MTK to release MT7981 with embeded RAM
<robimarko>
That will save you some cents
<\x>
coremark multicore wise, MT7981 is slower than an overclocked MT7621A (1.1GHz)
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but you do get aes so yeah....
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anyway, theose TPlink XDRs are on ali, so I guess thats it for you to see
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<robimarko>
Ugh, is Aliexpress search so broken or there is literaly none
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robimarko: "tp link AX6000"
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start there.
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local pricing on china goes from 600 to 800 cny so like 86$ to 125$
<robimarko>
That works, unfortunatelly I aint paying 250 USD
<robimarko>
Plus most likely VAT as well
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well, I guess ask help on the chinese regulars on github issues or the forum, sure as hell theyll hook you up.
<\x>
that amadeus guy on soxrok2212's thread is well known, mebbe he can help ya.
<\x>
start deciding if you want one, since after new years, then yeah, chinese new year and holidays, no good shipping options from china for 2~3 weeks.
<robimarko>
I am currently trying to save money, and getting more gear aint gonna help
<robimarko>
I have the Banana Pi 3, so its not an issue
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<Mangix>
is that the new filogic stuff?
<robimarko>
Yeah
<Mangix>
nice
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<stintel>
any PoE-PD stuff with those new goodies yet? =)
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U6+ and U6+ LR? :D
<stintel>
can't find anything with the + ?
<\x>
none yet, the 4x4's U6 stuff are mostly MT7622
<\x>
ive seen some nice realtek 2.5GbE unmanaged PoE+ stuff on ali some days ago
<\x>
seems prices are getting better
<stintel>
iirc with my ax210 laptop I was able to > 1Gbps over WiFi
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yup you absolutely can
<stintel>
but I think this might have been with 160MHz channel width
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2x2 160 does like 1.4~1.7 when everything is gooooood
<stintel>
too long ago, don't remember :P
<stintel>
not using the U6LR as a daily
<Borromini>
stintel: on the EAP615?
<stintel>
yep
<stintel>
ehr, maybe
<Borromini>
i should check if it does 160 MHz then
<stintel>
rephrase your question
<stintel>
ah, no
<Borromini>
> 1Gbps
<Borromini>
ok
<Borromini>
:P
<stintel>
EAP615 has 1Gbps uplink
<Borromini>
yeah
<Borromini>
sorry, silly question
<\x>
isnt that 7621
<stintel>
it is
<Borromini>
\x: yeah
<\x>
yeah I dont think you can go over 600 on wifi with that with any radio in it
<stintel>
you can
<stintel>
my phone peaks > 800
<Borromini>
i've hit close to 700 with my AX210
<\x>
based
<\x>
overclocked cpu?
<stintel>
nope
<Borromini>
nope
<stintel>
I don't overclock
<\x>
then thats interesting
<Borromini>
nor do i
<\x>
I guess that bridging offload thing is making wonders
<stintel>
actually I do overclock, my risc-v board :P
<stintel>
bridging offload ?
<\x>
yeah theres some form of it there
<stintel>
bridger ?
<\x>
try running the iperf server on the mt7621 itself
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and it wont give you those results
<stintel>
of course not
<\x>
yeah
<stintel>
the CPU can't handle that iperf
<\x>
that too
<stintel>
actually it might if the other end is generating traffic
<\x>
max ive seen on an mt7621a is two redmi ac2100 linked over wifi, so 4x4 80 W5
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we got 720Mbps ish
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thats with the cpu overclocked.
<stintel>
4x4 ? :P I get more than that with 2x2
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didnt know the wifi6 ones actually can do better
<stintel>
that sounds ... weird
<\x>
yeah
<stintel>
ah
<stintel>
this is not ax
<stintel>
got it
<\x>
I though "yeah bruh thats the limit of this soc"
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thought*
<stintel>
interesting
<stintel>
I discovered what crashes my kernel
<stintel>
the IPsec thing I've been sporadically hitting on the M300
<stintel>
if my phone is connected to VPN via WAN, then I come home, switch to wifi -> *poof*
<stintel>
this is actually good, at least I can report it now
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<stintel>
maybe I should first try it on 5.10
<Borromini>
AFAIK there's no offloading enabled by default on MT7621, is there?
<Borromini>
since it was problematic
<stintel>
and I don't even have any netfilter stuff in my EAP615 image
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<stintel>
ah but the U6+ don't mention 6G?
<stintel>
I'm not buying anything new if it doesn't have 6GHz support
<robimarko>
Its UBNT, they aint gonna give it for free
<stintel>
it doesn't need to be free, it just needs to be MTK ;)
<Borromini>
:D
<Borromini>
QCA prolly gave them more money
<robimarko>
Didnt have to
<robimarko>
Cause they switched to IPQ5018
<robimarko>
Which has one radio fully built-in, so its just cheaper
<Borromini>
ok :P
<aiyion_>
debugging this boot issue is such a pain -.-' Errors that do not occur every time suck.
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<robimarko>
Filogic stuff is just now creeping on the market, and so far CN only
<robimarko>
And TP-Link is being a d*ck with booting only signed images
<robimarko>
So they are having to replace the bootloader
<Borromini>
:-/
<\x>
the meme too is that theres no bootm so you cant do that workaround
<\x>
ahaha
<stintel>
pfff
<stintel>
time to start a new OEM
<stintel>
I'm getting seriously tired of that shit
<Znevna>
let's push MikroTik to make some opensource-friendly hardware
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<robimarko>
Znevna: I am gonna win on lottery before MTik does anything that friendly
<Znevna>
hah
<Znevna>
true, sadly
<robimarko>
They are constantly doing crazier and crazier things to prevent us from doing anything
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<Borromini>
lol
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<mrkiko>
So ... I would like to run openwrt as a VM and give it access to a pair of network cards. I planned to use KVM with qemu. What's the backend you recommend me for doing so?
<mrkiko>
network backend I mean
<mrkiko>
I am looking trough qemu networking wiki but I feel confused atm
<karlp>
yeah, virtualbox is just "select bridged from dropdown, select nic from dropdown"
<karlp>
kvm is "hah lol, no"
<karlp>
if you want to do bridges, you have to create them manually outside kvm first.
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<mrkiko>
karlp: eheh, the host is a headless system btw, but ok - bridges and tap I see
<mrkiko>
karlp: e.g.: make bridge A with eth1 and tap1 for wan so guest can do pppoe, make bridge B with eth2 that guest sees as LAN and so on, right?
<mrkiko>
maybe it's just easier to boot openwrt from a usb stick :D :D
<stintel>
I'm using libvirt with openvswitch
<mrkiko>
stintel: I am scared since I know really nothing about openvswitch, but I guess the result is nice
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<stintel>
takes some effort setting up but I can now just select portgroup in a dropdown, which decides in which VLAN the VM ends up
<mrkiko>
definitely great; well, of course I am looking for a console oriented experience but I guess this won't be a problem
<stintel>
oh then you might not want to bother with libvirt at all
<stintel>
although virsh could be useful
<stintel>
but many people have a serious dislike for libvirt :P
<stintel>
too redhat'y
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<mrkiko>
but well - it might one of these things you don't understand why you need until you configured them and at some point you say "wooow!" :D
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<tmxpro>
A device I am porting to has 3 position mode switch in the back with 2 gpios assigned to it - how should I name the gpio in dts?
<tmxpro>
And is there any standard way of having power leds configured if the device has red and blue power led, thought about having it blue during normal boot and operation and red during upgrade and failsafe mode?
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<mrkiko>
tmxpro: as for the switches, I guess the naming may depend on their purposes.
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<tmxpro>
mrkiko: Well yeah but they will be hard to label in dts in a way that is clear.
<mrkiko>
is still here the person who tried to open mtk_ppe/something panicking the kernel in the process?
<stintel>
Znevna: you have a customer :P ^
<mrkiko>
tmxpro: di yourbest and send all the work to the ML, you will get some suggestions. Of course no ned to let this be a blocker.
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soxrok2212: 100 isnt bad for that 7986, but seeing w6 160 can breach gigabit, is bonding working, the 802.3ad one
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<soxrok2212>
\x: i dunno about link agg, i have 10g wired to the whole house so i dont need it
<soxrok2212>
as far as 160mhz breaking gig, im sure it would. i have yet to try it cause nothing supports 160mhz outside of other openwrt boards, but a 2x2 device at 80mhz regularly hits 700-800mbit
<soxrok2212>
actually no i have an intel ax200 that hit 1.3gbit on 2x2 160MHz
<soxrok2212>
through a few walls
<\x>
yeah theres a lot of devices doing 160MHz, a lot of android devices does
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<tmxpro>
How fast speeds can those devices do for vpn?
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<soxrok2212>
tmxpro: mt7986?
<soxrok2212>
if so, i dunno if anyones done a benchmark on it yet but a safe bet would probably be to take mt7622 and add at least 50%
<Borromini>
nice case stintel =)
<Borromini>
eco-friendly even :P
<Slimey>
lol stintel the bsap-1800v2 units have that same radio configuration but uf.l connections
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<stintel>
hmmm, I suspect my EAP615-Wall crashed, running the mac80211-6.1-rc8