15:30 <bloom> marcan: It occurs to me, once the basic USB/Ethernet patches are upstream, other periphera kernel drivers ould be developed on-board the M1 and just modprobed in and out

15:31 <bloom> (Which might matter for me and GPU, seeing as the M1 can build a kernel faster than all my other machines combined ;) )

15:31 <bloom> This sounds like an Empathically Bad Idea(TM), so on that note, hey sven how is USB coming? ;P

16:56 <mariogrip[m]> Hi all o/ I just bought a mac mini to help get linux on it. I'm wondering what is the best area to start working on to avoid doing dual work? I got experience on hacking on android devices to get them running ubuntu touch, so i got a good amount of exposure to reverse engineering.

16:58 <jn> mariogrip[m]: hi, welcome. marcan is streaming on youtube right now, you might want to check that out. mmiotracing macos now works mostly

16:59 <mariogrip[m]> got a link?

16:59 <j_ey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4fp_nBRNfw

16:59 <mariogrip[m]> tnx! :)

18:49 <sven> bloom: if you like bad ideas i can give you a patchset that kinda-sorta makes it work :D

18:51 <bloom> sven: Aw man :p

18:52 <bloom> sven: Arguably 'just' Ethernet and disk would be enough for a build server. This is so cursed.

18:52 <sven> well, i did just submit the first clock gate patchset two days ago. it's just a matter of months now!

18:54 <bloom> rip

18:54 <bloom> submit to mainline or to asahi/linux?

18:54 <sven> mainline

18:54 <sven> needs some major changes ofc :P

18:54 <bloom> do we not have a downstream for "good enough to run, but not good enough to mainline yet" repo?

18:55 <sven> don't think so.

18:55 <Emantor> What is https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux for than

18:55 <sven> i have https://github.com/svenpeter42/linux/tree/dart-iommu-v3 which is almost enough for usb

18:56 <j_ey> Emantor: currently only had the initial bringup patches

18:56 <sven> i can push my rebase version of the DART stuff there

18:56 <Emantor> I know, but the repo could be used for the purpose mentioned by bloom. IDK who makes these policy decisions though.

18:57 <sven> it doesn't really matter. git is all distributed anyway *shrug*

18:59 <Emantor> Thats right, just easier for discoverability.

19:02 <sven> bloom: so https://github.com/svenpeter42/linux/commits/dart-iommu-v3-wip might be enough to get the usb ports working once

19:02 <sven> it's still a little bit ugly and needs some more work before i can submit that upstream though

19:02 <kettenis> somebody just needs to write a simple linux apcie driver; that gives you ethernet + usb storage on the mini

19:04 <kettenis> standard ecam, so the only thing that really needs to be figured out is how to do MSIs

19:04 <kettenis> within the linux framework that is; the hardware registers involved have been figured out

19:05 <kettenis> proposed bindings have been submitted but probably still need a little bit of back and forth with the relevant maintainers

19:06 <kettenis> that set, getting clocks and dart upstreamed should probably be the priority

19:06 <kettenis> s/set/said/

19:07 <sven> yeah, yeah, i get it :P

19:07 <sven> i'll reply to the feedback on the clk submission tomorrow

19:07 <kettenis> heh, I wasn't complaining ;)

19:08 <sven> i get lazy. i occasionally need someone to kick my butt ;)

19:09 <sven> tsk tsk :P

19:09 <bloom> Oh, you're back. That means DART works now? :p

19:10 <Emantor> x)

19:10 <sven> anyway ;)

19:11 <sven> dart works, it just still has some minor hacks and i need to look into the 4k cpu pages / 16k dart pages thing

19:59 <marcan> sven: I do want to maintain a downstream repo with this stuff that works, so please push it somewhere :)

20:00 <marcan> I can give you write access on the asahi repo so you can play in a branch if you want

20:00 <marcan> (not now though, sleep :p)

20:00 <sven> sure

20:00 <marcan> this also makes it easier to collaborate

20:00 <sven> just tell me whatever works best. i'm not picky about this stuff ;)

20:02 <bloom> My vote is asahilinux/linux

22:39 <PthariensFlame[m]> Mine too, for what it's worth.