00:53 <marcan> sven: it actually already does... sometimes.

00:53 <marcan> I'm not sure when

00:53 <marcan> but yes, I need to do that

06:17 <sven> huh, I’ve never seen it survive. maybe I just need to try a few times

13:44 <marcan> https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux/issues/81

13:44 <marcan> I *knew* dumping the installer log into the EFI partition would be useful one day.

13:44 <marcan> I should make asahi-diagnose also auto collect that

13:44 <marcan> "I didn't enable expert mode" haha yes you did

13:51 <_jannau_> maybe s/expert/developer/? but hopefully the rewording you did recently is good enough

13:51 <marcan> yeah, now it mentions *Asahi Linux* developers

13:53 <sven> lol

13:53 <Shiz> hehe

13:55 <piroko> if there's one thing I've learned from fielding bug reports, it's that users can't be trusted

13:59 <amarioguy> sven: just a refresher, from what i saw in m1n1, for NVMe to work you need SART and ASC/RTKit stuff working

13:59 <amarioguy> anything i missed?

13:59 <amarioguy> just asking for a refresher*

14:00 <sven> pretty much

14:00 <amarioguy> perfect

14:00 <sven> the nvme interface is ofc not standard nvme

14:00 <amarioguy> in traditional apple fashion :)

14:11 <j`ey> marcan: can you downgrade a stun with the installer?

14:11 <j`ey> stub

14:19 <jannau> backup ESP contents except firmware, delete stub+ESP, do uefi only install, restore ESP backup

14:19 <marcan> still need to fix /etc/fstab after that but basically yeah that

14:20 <marcan> I should add an option to do it one day, but I'm not particularly inclined to until we actually support more than one firmware per machine and there are legitimate reasons to upgrade

14:30 <maz> one day I'll need to update my mini... it is still running the hack I put there 18 months ago, with 11.x stubs.

14:42 <marcan> heh

14:50 <TheLink> Nothing lasts as long as a stopgap

14:52 <marcan> hey I did reinstall all my systems with the installer, it's y'all who are slacking off :p

14:52 <sven> I don't even know which stub version I have :D

15:15 <maz> marcan: life is too short! I even depend on some ancient u-boot that still had the USB-A ports working...

15:47 <piroko> is there a particular branch on the asahi linux kernel github that the -edge kernel updates can be matched to?

15:48 <j`ey> piroko: theyre the same branches as non-edge

15:48 <j`ey> just different config options

15:48 <piroko> oh cool

16:15 <thatdevsherry> Hello everyone, I just installed Asahi Linux on my M1 Air today and loved seeing Linux after so long. I wanted to ask if there's any way for me to contribute to the development of the project. I'm a software engineer (about 4yrs) but have never worked with lower level stuff. I do have some experience with Rust (networking) + was an avid arch user and I thought it'd be cool if there's a way I can contribute + learn Rust at the same time.

16:15 <thatdevsherry> However, the project is so big so I don't really know if it's possible for me to try and develop in a certain area of the project. Any guidance is appreciated :)

17:17 <kettenis> maz: sorry about slacking off

17:17 <kettenis> unfortunately that initial type-a usb support was a giant stinkin' hack

17:47 <maz> kettenis: don't be sorry. I understand the complexity of this stuff, and I'm not moaning at anyone.

20:57 <zzywysm> i'm guessing marcan is asleep right now, but does anyone else know which u-boot branch he creates tags like asahi-v2022.10-1 from? my guess is asahi-releng

20:58 <kettenis> yes, asahi-releng

20:58 <zzywysm> thx

20:59 <kettenis> but since the branches get rebased every so often, tags may get detached from their branches

21:04 <sven> ugh, so looks like even the acio darts are only accessible when atcphy is up :/