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<chadmed> janneg: have you noticed any microstuttering on plasma 6 in your testing?
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<janneg> chadmed: I see it now (still rc2 from fedora rawhide of a couple of weeks ago), I did not notice it before
<chadmed> hmm okay. ive unmasked and installed the release version and i notice it on the 15" air but not the studio connected to my 1440p 165hz monitor
<janneg> it was initially very bad (not micro stuttering) but better after an reboot
<chadmed> i have no non-apple machines to do isolation testing with though :p
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<janneg> issue sounds a little bit like the issue previously reported against gnome/mutter
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<chaos_princess> also tried out plasma 6 yesterday, it also felt "off" (i think it is microstuttering) and there were other issues like sddm being broken with kwin_wayland, sddm not loading the breeze theme with x11, and task manager crashing upon right clicking icons
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<janneg> it's especially bad during window resize
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<j`ey> that seems to be x11?
<j`ey> (or maybe the same thing affects wayland, they said they cant test, didnt read that far)
<janneg> the change is not x11 specific but it doesn't make a difference
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<chadmed> chaos_princess: the ebuild for sddm is fucked. i edited it to build against qt6 and it works fine for me now
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<chadmed> hm i think the root cause is something else. im definitely syncing at 60 Hz, it just runs like ass
<chadmed> pacing and stuttering abounds
<chadmed> pacing issues*
<janneg> I'm debugging with kwin developers atm. you can try with KWIN_DRM_DISABLE_BUFFER_READABILITY_CHECKS=1 but I think you'll need https://paste.debian.net/1309235/ in addition
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<janneg> doesn't fix it fully but improves things
<leio> more relatedly to the stuttering, in gnome stuff there was just https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/-/merge_requests/3949 filed to make things smoother by giving a millisecond more time to get a frame ready ;p
<leio> (the developer is on asahi)
<leio> looks like I can see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/3247 too, just haven't really noticed on anything in practice, which might have more to do with not having steam than it not being a problem
<leio> the numbers go especially down the drain if I jiggle the mouse around with no hardware cursor plane in use
<chadmed> janneg: given that patch i wonder if it's related to our iomfb swap being really slow?
<chadmed> i think ive mentioned before that a similar failure mode can be observed when rapidly changing the brightness
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