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<anholt_> new deqp-runner 0.9.0 released: integrated renderer check if you want it (no more accidentally testing llvmpipe), --include-tests for suite mode, and supports the new vk-default.txt format.
<Kayden> nice!
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<jljusten> Kayden: spurious ci fail blocking merge of 12623? at least it's an iris job being flagged this time...
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<Kayden> it's possible that those actually regressed
<Kayden> but I reran it and they failed again, and this time it got a ton of gpu hangs
<Kayden> but of course I can't reproduce anything locally at all, everything works fine
<Kayden> helgrind is finding issues but they're all in core egl code
<Kayden> I had one concern about multithreading in my series, but it never once calls the code I was concerned about, so it can't be that
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<Lyude> mupuf: seems like it won't be too difficult to convince work to get me one of these :)
<mupuf> no way, really?
<Lyude> and they provide "customized products" too
<mupuf> You mean the FPGA boards?
<Lyude> mupuf: if it's somewhat reasonably priced yeah. and yes I mean https://numato.com/product/numato-opsis-fpga-based-open-video-platform/
<mupuf> let me see if LiteX supports it
<mupuf> LiteX is freaking amazing
<mupuf> Looking good
* mupuf has an netv2 and ULX3S
<Lyude> i have never done fpga dev before
<mupuf> https://www.adafruit.com/product/4248 <-- PCIe board that can also be ran standalone
<mupuf> https://www.crowdsupply.com/radiona/ulx3s <-- and this is the most user-friendly one... with a full open source toolchain
<mupuf> Not sure if the ULX3S can do HDMI IN though :s
<mupuf> it can do 1080p30, at least
<Lyude> also, not being able to source the chamelium anymore? yikes
<mupuf> (output)
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<mupuf> Lyude: I can't overstate how much nicer the open source toolchain is
<Lyude> mupuf: would the opsis have an open source toolchain as well?
<mupuf> and if you are to chose a board that is Xilinx based... go for a series 7 as the open source toolchain is almost there
<mupuf> spartan 6... too old... sorry
<mupuf> the netv2 can be a replacement
<mupuf> 2 inputs, 2 outputs
<Lyude> looks like it's only HDMI though
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<mupuf> Lyude: converters exist though
<mupuf> but yeah, that's an issue
<mupuf> DP is a pain to implement too
<mupuf> HDMI up to 1.4 is relatively easy
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<Lyude> mhm, if xilinx is going to be open source totally for the series 7, it's technically pretty much in the same boat as the chamelium (e.g. everything open source but the toolchain for the FGPA)
<Lyude> but better, since we'd eventually get an open source toolchain
<Lyude> assuming they eventually upgrade the opsis to 7
<Lyude> mupuf: do you know if the xilinx toolkit at least runs on Linux btw?
<mupuf> Lyude: Vivado works on linux. It's just the biggest toolchain ever (30GB), and suuuuuper slow
<mupuf> I don't think opsis will be changed any time soon
<mupuf> series 7 is *OLD*
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<mupuf> 11 years old :D
<Lyude> mh, tbh - my hope is that we would be able to get away with not making many (if any) changes to the FPGA
<danvet> mlankhorst, did you miss the pull request train?
<danvet> there's a ttm fix iirc that Linus wants
<danvet> airlied, ^^
<danvet> mlankhorst, pls get that pull out asap
<danvet> or maybe I'm confused
<danvet> oh it's a nouveau fix
<danvet> hm no maybe I'm just confused, but there's a few patches still and no pull
<danvet> oh well
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<zmike> MrCooper: pretty sure I got it this time :)
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<Kayden> helgrind -really- doesn't like u_threaded_context. :(
<Kayden> I think in most cases it's just not understanding why there isn't a data race, but there's so much noise, it's hard to be sure what's spurious and what isn't
<Lyude> btw daniels - I do believe chamelium 3 is still otw
<Lyude> it's just, shortages
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<mupuf> Lyude: pretty sure you'll have to do changes, if you care about hotplugging, reporting frame metadata, ... AKA everything the chamelium does
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<Kayden> ugh. even with GALLIUM_THREAD=0 MESA_GLSL_CACHE_DISABLE=1 sync_compile=true shader_precompile=false I get helgrind warnings from dEQP-EGL multithread tests...*sometimes*.
<alyssa> D:
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<daniels> Lyude: yeah, luckily we also can't get any new machines to test for the same reason really :P
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<danvet> dolphin, YUSUb+JP+e0f+00G@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net <- can you pls land that in gt-next?
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<danvet> airlied, [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add a DRM driver to support AI Processing Unit (APU) <- do you have time to look at this?
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<danvet> seanpaul, thx
<mripard> seanpaul: as a heads up, you probably want to look at https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20210910101218.1632297-1-maxime@cerno.tech/
<Kayden> anholt: hey! I keep getting iris-apl-egl failures in gitlab CI on my suballocator series (!12623)...and...I'm not sure what to do about them. Figured you might have some advice/opinions
<mripard> I'm almost sure it's going to break msm on platforms with a bridge
<Kayden> it's definitely possible that my series regressed things there, but...almost all the threads are dEQP-EGL.*multithread*. various of those tests have been flaking for a long time. I see some listed in the flakes list for freedreno as well.
<Kayden> running them locally, I think I had 1 test fail once, and otherwise they've all been passing pretty consistently here
<Kayden> looking at them with helgrind, I get...sporadic helgrind warnings from some tests. it's not even a consistent set of warnings
<Kayden> I'm somewhat tempted just to add a bunch more of them to the flakes or skips list
<akselmo> hi all, i dont know if im in the right place but im using kisak ppa for my mesa drivers and i dont think this fix is included yet? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/5323 is there some ppa of the drivers where these newer changes are in? idk if i should build it on my own either
<Kayden> I kind of hate to do that though, it's at least 12 new flakes
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<MrCooper> Kayden: if there keep being failures with that MR, but not without, that indicates the MR might at least make something worse somehow? Then again, maybe it just happens to make it more likely to hit a pre-existing bug, e.g. due to memory layout changes
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<Kayden> that's my guess, it's making pre-existing bugs more likely
<Kayden> prior to this series, BO allocation hit a global bufmgr lock, and now it has slightly finer grained locking in that it uses pb_slab locks. so it might adjust the timing of some things
<MrCooper> how likely does it seem that real-world apps could hit those bugs as well?
<Kayden> I've run some and haven't had any issues
<MrCooper> does sound like skipping the tests or marking them as flakes might be the least evil overall
<MrCooper> if the bug(s) can't be fixed
<Kayden> hmm. looks like deqp-egl isn't run on radeonsi yet
<Kayden> looks like vc4 does though..
<anholt_> Kayden: have you done helgrind on the series?
<anholt_> oh, I se you said that
<anholt_> but if you have helgrind warnings, that seems really important to fix.
<Kayden> yeah
<anholt_> I really want to get tsan ci working, but haven't managed to convince Mesa to work with it without also rebuilding deqp against it (I think)
<Kayden> there are...a lot of helgrind warnings.
<Kayden> for one, it seems completely incapable of figuring out simple_mtx_t
<anholt_> did you build without valgrind enabled?
<Kayden> I have to sed-job away simple_mtx_t to mtx_t to silence them
<anholt_> simple_mtx has annotations to help helgrind
<Kayden> shouldn't have..
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<anholt_> austriancoder: could we get !12852 finished? I've been waiting to do some uprevs until that goes in so we don't waste container rebuild rebased work.
<austriancoder> anholt_: sure...give me 3 hours ;)
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<alyssa> Minnesota, hm
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<austriancoder> anholt_: done
<anholt_> thanks!
<daniels> austriancoder: etnaviv in CI \o/ \o/
<robclark> mripard: msm platforms using bridge is nearly all the laptops and all the chromebooks.. if you have a branch somewhere, I could take a look
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<alyssa> woo!
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<robclark> thx, I'll take a look
<mripard> great, thanks
<Company> if I want to download a texture from the GPU ideally without any conversions happening, how do I do that?
<anholt_> mripard: thanks for documenting the probe stuff!
<Company> I thought about starting with glGetTexLevelParameter(GL_INTERNAL_FORMAT) but I'm not even sure what values that can return
<anholt_> Company: GL_IMPLEMENTATION_COLOR_READ_TYPE/FORMAT can help
<anholt_> (for readpixels)
<anholt_> but yeah, if you're using sized internalformats (you should!) on post-3.x GL, then you could just have a table of your sized internalformat to format/size enums, and you know it's stored reasonably internally.
<Company> I was using glGetTexImage()
<anholt_> format/type
<Company> I got one to say GL_RGBA randomly just now
<anholt_> if you wanted to poke at what it might be *actually* stored as if you're not using sized internalformats for your texture, then you need to look at the individual channel sizes from glGetTex
<Company> which according to spec is fine, but not very informative as an internal format
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<anholt_> it's just giving you back what you gave it.
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<Company> sucks that we allow external code to pass GL texture ids
<Company> I ebt that was GStreamer
<mripard> anholt_: yeah I saw a desperate comment from you in vc4 about that probe situation :)
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<karolherbst> I have no idea what that is.. but I didn't get a single negative comment on my phoronix article yet, yay
<robclark> mripard: one fixup for you, and msm/dsi conversion.. the latter I should try to test some more somehow because it really shifts the probe order around and there are a lot of possible cases (dual vs single dsi, panel vs bridge, etc)..
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<robclark> jstultz: hmm, you might want to try ^^^ at some point to make sure it doesn't break all the phones with dsi panels instead of bridges
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<jstultz> robclark: yea, I need to test it on the hikey too to make sure the adv7511 is still happy there
<jstultz> robclark: i'll ping calebccff and pundir to see if they can give it a spin on the form-factor devices
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<robclark> cool, thx
<robclark> might still need to revert the devfreq thing for now, depending on which device
<karolherbst> dcbaker: do you think we could make language requierments optional in meson? Like don't really feel like requiring Rust inside mesa is a good idea as long as gallium fronteds are all optional requiring rust. But we can't really put anything before project, so wondering if I missed some secret feature or if we really have to require rustc existing on the system
<dcbaker> karolherbst: add_language()?
<karolherbst> dcbaker: ohh, totally missed that
<karolherbst> let me try that out
<karolherbst> cool :) seems to work
<jstultz> robclark: yea, the devfreq thing is still an issue.. starting to get more reports as folks are testing w/ android-mainline
<jstultz> robclark: hopefully bamse will get some details from qc that will help
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<robclark> jstultz: yeah.. I have some plans to defer clamping down freq when idle (ie. delay for 1ms or so) which might end up helping with the symptoms, but still pretty unsure about what to do about root problem (or why downstream android kernels don't hit it.. unless they have some magic workaround in the tz gpu freq governor?)
<bnieuwenhuizen> jekstrand: btw is all the CL stuff for ANV upstream?
<daniels> mupuf: ^ speaking of, it would be really nice to get yours & Charlie's work as much upstream as possible, even if it's disabled and just manual by defualt
<daniels> right now there's so much of it that I live in fear of merge day
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