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<gawin> adavy: do you perhaps have a way to make sure gallium nine is running? (when using steam games debugging is a bit more difficult)
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<hakzsam> jekstrand: it seems ANV is missing new pipeline stages like VK_PIPELINE_STAGE_2_COPY_BIT_KHR, is this expected?
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<dj-death> hakzsam: what do you mean by missing?
<hakzsam> git grep :)
<dj-death> hakzsam: there was a recent change where we changed ANV_PIPELINE_STAGE_PIPELINED_BITS to be the ~ of non pipelined bits (which is fewer than pipelined ones)
<dj-death> hakzsam: okay, that's probably why then ;)
<hakzsam> ok, sounds good, thanks
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<mareko> jekstrand: radeonsi lowers atomics to ssbos, and that's the way it'll always be
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<kisak> elsewhere in the linux ecosystem ... nvidia 495.29.05 beta driver released with support for GBM
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<Venemo> mareko: why ssbo why not shared atomics?
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<cwabbott> Venemo: GL atomics are shared between all workgroups and work on all stages
<Venemo> oh
<Venemo> okay
<cwabbott> on most HW they're implemented as an SSBO, but amd has this global atomic thing that (as mareko says) radeonsi doesn't use
<bnieuwenhuizen> it can technically be implemented using GDS
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<Venemo> GDS kind of sux though, doesn't it?
<bnieuwenhuizen> not sure I'd call it that way. On Linux using it has been unstable at times though
<bnieuwenhuizen> and GL atomic usage is probably so low that it isn't worth it?
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<Venemo> makes sense
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<jekstrand> mareko: Do you have any opinion on whether or not it's worth keeping the HW atomics on r600?
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<jekstrand> Ugh... How do I select which GPU to use with piglit, again?
<jekstrand> Trying to get piglit to use my radeon card not my Haswell
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<jekstrand> It would help if I was ssh'd into the machine that has the radeon card...
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<jekstrand> And now even wflinfo crashes. :(
<ajax> jekstrand: you look up what the parser does for DRI_PRIME= and then you set it in your wrapper script and forget to add it to envvars.rst
<jekstrand> Ok, so "WAFFLE_GBM_DEVICE=/dev/dri/renderD128 wflinfo -p gbm -a gl" works and is my Haswell but using renderD129 segfaults
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<jekstrand> It looks like EGL is advertising EXT_image_dmabuf_import_modifiers but the driver is not advertising any modifiers. :-/
<bnieuwenhuizen> jekstrand: IIRC that was enabled to support one of the wayland protocols or something, with zeor modifiers being the thing for drivers that don't support modifiers
<bnieuwenhuizen> AKA change was intentional
<jekstrand> Yeah, seems waffle didn't get with the times. :-/
<jekstrand> So piglit is busted if you're on new enough waffle
<jekstrand> Not sure how no one noticed this
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<co1umbarius> bnieuwenhuizen: zero is _MOD_LINEAR, which is a valid modifier for no tiling. Wayland and pipewire are using _MOD_INVALID for implicit modifier support
<bnieuwenhuizen> co1umbarius: with zero modifiers I mean the empty list
<bnieuwenhuizen> I know the modifier "0" is linear yes
<co1umbarius> ahh ok sry
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<zmike> pepp: would like to get cs pbo in for 21.4. can you look at testing and a bit deeper review? I can rebase it a bit later today
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<kisak> ^22.0
<zmike> yeah that
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<zmike> eric_engestrom: is it intentional that the 21.3 milestone on gitlab has been "completed" ? I thought that was supposed to be the list of things that were blocking the final release
<mareko> jekstrand: memory atomics are pretty slow on r600, so I don't recommend them
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<mareko> the r600 ssbo hw is pretty horrifying
<airlied> pretty sure r600 is the only reason the hw atomic ext exists :-P
<mareko> also DX11
<airlied> not sure any other vendor had specific hw for that dx11 feature
<airlied> but I forget the name now
<airlied> ah append/consume counters
<idr> dcbaker, eric_engestrom: I don't know who is doing releases anymore... did I do !13366 correctly?
<idr> And what should I do about earlier stable branches that are still supported?
<dcbaker> idr: I'm doing 21.2, eric_engestrom is doing 21.3
<idr> dcbaker: Okay... should I make another MR for 21.2?
<kisak> idr: you can reliably find who's managing releases at https://docs.mesa3d.org/release-calendar.html
<dcbaker> idr: I'm in the middle of cutting 21.2.4 ATM, but as soon as I'm done I'll try to pull it and see if it merges cleanly
<idr> kisak: Ah... I should have known it was documented somewhere. :)
<dcbaker> Trying to make releases after going to the eye doctor... not a good idea
<idr> dcbaker: It should apply cleanly. It's a very small change.
* dcbaker says about yesterday
<eric_engestrom> yes, I'm doing 21.3 :)
<dcbaker> then I'll just apply it, there's a function in the maintainer tool for that
<eric_engestrom> idr: your MR look very good, assigning it to marge
<eric_engestrom> zmike: that wasn't intentional, I'll reopen it now
<eric_engestrom> ah no, it's not closed, it's just "past due" because it had a due date set to the branchpoint; I just removed the due date
<idr> dcbaker: Cool. Picking to current staging/21.2 applies cleanly. Checking that it actually builds now...
<dcbaker> I added the due date, I figured that would help people assigning things know when the branchpoint was
<zmike> eric_engestrom: great, thanks
<eric_engestrom> dcbaker: yeah, that made sense
<eric_engestrom> I've set it to the expected date for .0 final, I'll try to remember to update it if we have more rc
<idr> dcbaker: ...and it builds fine too.
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<dcbaker> idr: cool, I'll pull it into the tree for the next release
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<sravn> danvet, mripard, mlankhorst - OK to apply drm/loongson? Most (all?) my comments are adressed, but I am not sure that the design of the driver is up to the standard today. So I am reluctant to apply it...
<dcbaker> idr: it's in the staging/21.2 branch upstream now
<pinchartl> sravn: isn't it confusing to call it the Loongson "bridge" when it's actually a display controller and not a drm bridge ?
<sravn> danvet, mripard, mlankhorst - I cannot find the latest patch at lore.kernel.org?? So I cannot provide an URL.
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<pinchartl> I can't find the patches in my inbox either
<pinchartl> your replies made it there though
<sravn> pinchartl: Yeah, I am confused too. But I have not seen any HW diagram but think the "bridge" terms comes from the HW and not the DRM bridge.
<pinchartl> I suspect you were CC'ed on the submission ?
<pinchartl> was it converted to drm_bridge_connector ?
<sravn> Yep, have them in my inbox.
<pinchartl> was the original submission an HTML e-mail by any chance ?
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<sravn> pinchartl: drm_bridge_connector is not used
<pinchartl> :-(
<pinchartl> you've asked for it in a review
<sravn> I will ask to have it updated and resubmitted.
<sravn> Maybe I should read my replaies - as I cannot remember my feedback. It is starting over for each iteration.
<pinchartl> :-)
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<sravn> mripard, mlankhorst - ignore my Q. I have asked for an update. I may return to you on next revision though.
<jekstrand> mareko: Makes sense. Just tryig to figure out how badly we should try and plumb through NIR. Sounds like it's probably worth it.
<jekstrand> I'm still unclear on how much work it'll be. Much less than nir_var_mem_image, I think, but it'll be some amount of work.
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<jekstrand> Once that lands, we should cut a release so radeonsi stops crashing piglit.
<Venemo> jekstrand: out of curiosity, what happened to the plan for forking off the old drivers?
<pinchartl> mmmmm waffles... you're giving me ideas for the weekend
<eric_engestrom> jekstrand: 404 on that repo, I'm guessing it's set to private :)
<jekstrand> eric_engestrom: Yeah, I forked it private by accident
<eric_engestrom> also, I'm guessing you meant to make an MR for https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/waffle ?
<jekstrand> Yeah, I did
<jekstrand> chadv: ^^
<jekstrand> Had to fix my permissions and now it all works. :D
<eric_engestrom> did xexaxo1 not make it out of the freenode collapse, or is he just not online right now? I was going to tag him so he could have a look too
* eric_engestrom is rarely on irc these days
<emersion> i've seem him around
<emersion> please be on irc :3
<ccr> stay a while .. stay forever
<pinchartl> eric_engestrom: you have no idea how much we miss you when you're not on irc
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<milek7> how does bios setting in laptops to switch to nvidia-only graphics work?
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<milek7> is there some displayport switch hardware to select display source between apu and nvidia, or there is some firmware that always copies frames to apu for display, but is invisible for OS?
<airlied> milek7: it's switches a MUX on the outputs
<airlied> it switches
<HdkR> It's sad how few laptop manufacturers want to put a $1 mux in their devices
<airlied> if you have 2 gpus you pretty much have to put one in :-)
<airlied> though I suppose some don't have display hw at all
<airlied> on the second gpu
<airlied> there's also the BIOS only MUX vs the runtime switchables
<bnieuwenhuizen> airlied: unless you always do the external display from the dGPU and internal display from the iGPU
<airlied> it seems like runtime switchables are making a comeback
<bnieuwenhuizen> seems like OEMs discovered that having to copy over the image in a PRIME arrangement costs performance
<HdkR> Are more laptops finally shipping more frequently?
<bnieuwenhuizen> some OEMs*
<airlied> bnieuwenhuizen: I think NVIDIA put pressure on them as well
<airlied> and to use a more expensive mux like apple does
<airlied> so the switching is vblank synced and seamless
<airlied> as opposed to the early windows muxes which was flickery black screen mess
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<airlied> maybe someday Linux will get a compositor than can keep up :-P
<HdkR> Looking forward to wayland hooking up to that :)