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<dcbaker> Is this the best time to delete the classic drivers, or the worst?
* dcbaker really wants to send that to marge :)
<Sachiel> it would be a damn shame if you accidentally pressed the wrong combination of buttons to get that done
<HdkR> Merge it since obviously nobody is invested enough to say no to it anymore :)
<dcbaker> Pretty sure I could use the Kayden strategy, a single sneeze should be sufficient to accidently delete half of mesa
<imirkin_> dcbaker: is intel going to support crocus?
* airlied would really like the results of a CI run on crocus in public first :-P
<dcbaker> We will support crocus no less than we support i915c
<imirkin_> that'd be a feat...
<imirkin_> (to support it less)
<dcbaker> What‽ We patch it at last once a year
<dcbaker> I even have patches to split up genxml so that we don't overgenerate/overlink the drivers once i965 is gone
<imirkin_> well, e.g. there's a bug report out about google maps + crocus = bad
<imirkin_> that was a problem with i965 back in the day too
<imirkin_> (eventually resolved, of course)
<imirkin_> who's going to be looking into this issue - anyone?
<Lynne> airlied: could you also join in the vulkan video discussion and let them know your opinion on slices as a driver dev?
<airlied> Lynne: I've been following along, though my opinion isn't great yet, since I just started writing these drivers, though it does save me a lot of driver trouble if someone else parses slice headers for me
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<airlied> I'm hoping intel rep cares at some point since at least their hw is very slice oriented
<Lynne> are intel even involved in the workgroup?
<Lynne> then again, I thought it was an nvidia-solo workgroup until I saw someone from amd chime in
<Lynne> now I found out that they have different ideas about how a slice API would look like, so it'd really be the best time for intel to join in
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<airlied> yeah intel have someone on the calls, but not sure how much they've been involved so far
<Lynne> well, even if you just started writing, your input would be much appreciated
<airlied> Lynne: so one issue I think with your suggestion I see of using VkEvents, is I'm not sure all the hw supports that model
<airlied> Lynne: do you know if the d3d12 decode api supports slices?
<airlied> don't think it does
<airlied> which might be why they are a bit reticent to do it on the vulkan one at this point
<airlied> might also be worth consulting the gstreamer dev
* airlied forgotten their gh handle
* airlied adds them, but I'll send email as well
<Lynne> let me check
<Lynne> oh, we don't have a hwaccel for d3d12 yet, but dxva2 does support multiple slices, so I'd be surprised if it doesn't
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<Lynne> I suggested vkevents in some early slice decoding idea I had without much thought, don't pay attention to that
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<daniels> airlied: Seungha?
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<airlied> daniels: for intel?, I think it's Ping Liu
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<daniels> oh, I don’t know Ping, thought you meant the person who did d3d12 video support for gst
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<ishitatsuyuki> can shuffle be an op instead of an intrinsic? I wonder if it's possible to do algebraic optimization with shuffles
<ishitatsuyuki> it would potentially allow lowering things doing AND or OR with the thread ID into masked_swizzle_amd, which is an hardware op/feature really hard to access from shaders right now
<pendingchaos> no
<pendingchaos> alu instructions are for simple operations without side effects or cross-thread communication
<pendingchaos> instead of nir_opt_algebraic, that optimization could be in something like nir_opt_intrinsics
<ishitatsuyuki> ok, thanks
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<FLHerne> imirkin_: I reported that, but I was thinking about closing the bug
<FLHerne> it seems to have stopped happening to me
<imirkin_> FLHerne: ah ok. well, try to stress it ... i remember google maps reliably killed SNB back in the day (before i965 focused on stability)
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<FLHerne> The other thing I notice is some misrendering of KDE Plasma popups, but I'm not sure if that's a Crocus thing or a KDE-on-Wayland thing
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<alyssa> pendingchaos: "without cross-thread communication" fddx is alu...
<pendingchaos> not sure if it should be
<alyssa> that's a different question ;-p
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<emersion> siqueira: wow, thanks for the dcn doc patch, very happy to see that :)
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<kevintang> mripard: Sorry for disturbing you again, please help to review my patch v7 when you are free, thks.
<danvet> mlankhorst, sravn ^^ seems to have been floating around for over 2 years, that's way too long, can someone just push this and then maybe encourage kevintang to grab some commits rights?
<danvet> kevintang, tzimmermann also a candidate for poking, but not around right now
<kevintang> danvet, thank you very much, it's too long in the basic version (for two years), i almost lose confidence myself.
<danvet> yeah not great going here :-/
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<mlankhorst> wasn't aware that they didn't have commit rights?
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<danvet> mlankhorst, chicken/egg before the driver has landed
<danvet> and we don't track initial submissions, so they can fall through all the cracks :-(
<danvet> can't land the driver because no commit rights
<danvet> can't get commit rights because driver hasn't landed yet
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<mlankhorst> will take a look
<mlankhorst> kevintang_: got a link by any chance?
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<kevintang_> mlankhorst: sorry, not fully understand what you mean, can you describe it in detail?
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<Ristovski> kevintang_: I assume he means link to the patch
<kevintang_> 【LKML: Kevin Tang: [PATCH v7 0/6] Add Unisoc's drm kms module】https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/10/25/301
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<kevintang_> Ristovski: Thks, your are right. But patch v7 6/6 is resend
<Ristovski> oh I see
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<siqueira> emersion Thanks. Actually, this was possible thanks to our discussion around the overlay (you gave us the final arguments about this topic). I hope we can keep expanding this documentation based on the community feedback; let us know if you want to see more documentation of some specific part soon.
<emersion> excellent!
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