02:27 <marex> austriancoder: the "no interest from developers" might have a reason ...

04:18 <austriancoder> mwalle: sure! mesa ci supports lava setups too.

04:20 <austriancoder> marex: hmm.. mostly lack of documentation about inner works? or how to do basic RE?

07:06 <mwalle> austriancoder: ok, something to keep in mind, maybe when there is actual support for the LS1028A (the WIP merge from lynxeye request is needed)

07:07 <mwalle> (and the cadence DP phy driver is still missing)

07:08 <austriancoder> yes..

07:12 <mwalle> austriancoder: speaking of, there is off screen rendering (at least theres an option in glmark2). but etnaviv (or maybe its because it depends on dp500) is only working with an attached display. is there any trick to make it work nonetheless?

07:17 <dos1> austriancoder: thanks for your XDC talk! got a late question: in a future where GLES3 is already supported by etnaviv, how far would it be to go to GL3.3 then? is it realistic to ever support GL3.3 on GC7000?

07:22 <austriancoder> mwalle: for me off screen rendering works with e.g. glmark2 and I run piglit with gbm an no screen attached in CI - it might depend on dp500

07:23 <mwalle> austriancoder: ok, then that might be another bug to chase ;)

07:24 <mwalle> austriancoder: what display driver is known to work, eg. which one(s) do you use? so i can have a look at them

07:25 <austriancoder> dos1: good question .. out of my mind am do not know the requirements for GL3.3 .. atm I would say it could be possible. I can have a deeper look at this topic after day job

07:25 <austriancoder> mwalle: my main kms driver is the imx one

07:26 <mwalle> austriancoder: ok thanks, we also got an imx8m board

13:53 <marex> austriancoder: lemme be blunt

13:53 <marex> austriancoder: onboarding new developers, even motivated ones, with etnaviv just ... sucks

13:54 <marex> austriancoder: case in point, this mmuv2 issue, I tried to solve it, but got such lacking help I felt like it was utterly unwelcome to try and learn something here

13:54 <marex> frankly, there was no help, just "wait I dont have time, wait I am away, wait this, wait that", which I could understand for a while, but not for months

13:55 <marex> austriancoder: it is fun to hack on etnaviv because the ISA is sane, but the lack of documentation and guidance is utterly crushingly demotivating

13:59 <marex> austriancoder: on the other hand, when patching e.g. the a2xx, that was nice, I got quick feedback and input on the issue ... it was much nicer than trying and trying for months and getting nowhere

13:59 <marex> that is what I think needs to be fixed here