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<eric_engestrom>
I see a discussion about a mesa-rootfs bucket with a "longer expiry" -> does "longer" mean more than 4 months? if not, that's the minimum we'll need since that's how long stable branches stay around
<ernstp>
Struggling with the amd-gfx mailing list and Gmail... "Your membership in the mailing list amd-gfx has been disabled due to excessive bounces"
<rgallaispou>
ernstp: Same here with dri-devel since christmas and linux-arm for ever. I've been googling here and there without real solutions
<ernstp>
seems like some other servers have solved it better, to some extent... not sure exactly
<rgallaispou>
Looking at the number of the gmail addresses on the kernel not complaining about this much, my instinct tells me that it is more from our side to do something
<MrCooper>
well, not exactly the same issue, just gmail being problematic as well
<bentiss>
eric_engestrom: I think the idea for the mesa-rootfs is no expiry (until we realize it takes too much space)
<eric_engestrom>
that's even better :)
<eric_engestrom>
and I have a feeling the sum size of all the kernel builds is going to be negligible compared to everything else ^^
<rgallaispou>
MrCooper: Right, so there not much we can do then... Apart from making our own mail server ;)
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<pq>
I've been thinking of migrating away from gmail, but I also want a permanent address while freely choosing my email hosting, so I'm thinking of getting a domain, and the biggest problem so far is coming up with a nice domain name.
<mripard>
rgallaispou: getting a kernel.org email address is also an option
<mripard>
or switching to lei and b4 :)
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<rgallaispou>
mripard: that did not cross my mind, I'll think about it. Thing is that I use two addresses: one professional and one personal. I don't know if using one for the other will pass for my employer. But I'll consider :)
<ernstp>
I guess Openembedded have chosen the "Munge" option for their mailinglists instead... https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC ?
<pinchartl>
self-hosting your personal mail server is an "interesting" experience. outsourcing that to good mail hosting companies lowers the {fun,pain} but is much simpler, and it's good to support smaller companies
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<mripard_>
rgallaispou: you can send patches with your professional mail as author using your personnal mail address
<mripard_>
I guess it would make everybody happy?
<mripard_>
rgallaispou: and b4 these days allow to send series through webhooks, so bypassing mails entirely
<mupuf>
pinchartl: +1 for that. I personnally went for runbox
<pinchartl>
a friend of mine is happy with protonmail.ch (I'm not necessarily endorsing them, it's just one more data point)
<mupuf>
yep, that's also a good choice from what I heard
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<mripard_>
fastmail is great too
<mripard_>
I've been using it to contribute for years, never had a single issue except the odd rate limiting cases when sending a 100-mails series
<emersion>
protonmail is not great to use with git-send-email
<rgallaispou>
pinchartl: I would really be interested in self hosting. I only fear that I'll spend more time fixing, tweaking the host rather than using it
<rgallaispou>
mripard: Wouldn't it confuse people as to which address to sent ?
<mripard>
rgallaispou: not really, it's fairly common
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<rgallaispou>
Alright, then
<mripard>
rgallaispou: sima does it regularly iirc for example
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<MrCooper>
note that for the mailing list issues, it doesn't matter which address you send from, only which address is used for the list subscription
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<pinchartl>
rgallaispou: there's definitely a learning curve. once you've learned, though, it's relatively low maintenance (as long as you don't have thousands of users and high volumes)
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<sima>
mine's hosted on google apps fwiw
<sima>
I have a grandfathered free account there
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<rgallaispou>
Okay, I'll let this discussion sink in. If this issue appears more often or becomes annoying with my personal account on the dri-devel mailing list I'll switch for something else.
<rgallaispou>
Thanks guys :)
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<eric_engestrom>
krastevm: yes, the lava bucket has an auto-delete issue that's being worked on (by daniels and DavidHeidelberg), but 1) it's not ready, and 2) the solution will do nothing for everything that exists so far, they will continue to get deleted, but everything that uses the new solution (once it exists) will no longer have this issue
<eric_engestrom>
daniels, DavidHeidelberg: could you please re-gen the v6.4.12-for-mesa-ci-f6b4ad45f48d files to unbreak CI and allow MRs to get merged 😇
<krastevm>
eric_engestrom: thanks for the debrief!
<pq>
I think I'm missing some gitlab notification emails from the past few days at least, now that you mentioned gmail being problematic in general.
<DavidHeidelberg>
eric_engestrom: heh. ok I need to move the stuff in new bucket soon
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<bentiss>
pq: yeah, I was missing notifications on gmail. For new users, the number of emails is usually 4 (initial request + 3 from the bot), and I was getting between 1 to 3, very raraly all 4 of them. Now I switch the notification email to my fastmail account, and get all 4 emails all the time, so no more random drops
<bentiss>
so basically, flee from gmail as much as you can :(
<pq>
but I still haven't invented a name for my domain! :-p
<bentiss>
roll a dice, pick a page in teh dictionnary and done :)
<pq>
A real Finnish word might be good, has a clear primary meaning and less likely to mean something disgusting anywhere and even if it does, I can point to the primary meaning.
<pq>
pq.fi is not free, I checked :-/
<bentiss>
pq.eu?
<bentiss>
same :(
<pq>
I like .fi, I'll never move.
<DavidHeidelberg>
eric_engestrom: done
<eric_engestrom>
DavidHeidelberg: thanks!
<eric_engestrom>
krastevm: ^
<MrCooper>
is the issue with GitLab notification e-mails the same as with mailing lists though?