#openwrt-devel on 2024-11-14 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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01:59 <djfe> as a downstream fork of OpenWrt https://github.com/freifunk-gluon/gluon : how does the switch to Alpine Package Manager (apk) affect us in future releases like OpenWrt 25?

02:00 <djfe> Do we have to rewrite the packages or is it mostly repackaging and switching from the current makefiles to a new format? (adjusting metadata)

02:00 <djfe> https://www.reddit.com/r/openwrt/comments/1gokyrg/the_apk_package_manager_is_now_the_default/

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04:14 <slh> djfe: for the most part, after merging the base changes, it's making sure that the version numbers meet the -stricter- expectations of apk. the packaging itself needs very few (no?) changes

04:16 <schmars[m]> can't depend on virtual packages like iptables/iptables6 anymore somehow - i had to change dependencies to iptables-nft (which is recommended anyway i guess)

04:16 <slh> yes, apk will expose all kinds of dependency issues opkg didn't notice or care about

04:17 <slh> but for the most part, that aspect is fixing what was already broken before

04:18 <slh> that doesn't make it anymore fun or necessarily easier, but it's not changing the whole world

04:19 <schmars[m]> yeah i'm surprised i had to do nothing else for these ~30 packages in my feed

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08:22 <KanjiMonster> how do I extract a .apk? I want to inspect its content, but so far haven't found anything that works (tar -xzf does not)

08:32 <russell--> i found something that works: # CONFIG_USE_APK is not set ;-)

08:34 <russell--> "An APK file is a ZIP archive that usually contains the following files and directories: " from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apk_(file_format)

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08:35 <KanjiMonster> russell--: as I already said, "tar -xzf" does not work. I also found that snippet ;p

08:35 <\x> just tried non of those work

08:35 <\x> and its not the zip apk on android too, so you cant just flash it on your receovery like magisk.apk :D

08:36 <\x> so yeah i also wonder now

08:36 <\x> even binwalk doesnt know about it

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08:36 <russell--> oh, wrong apk

08:37 <\x> russell--: yeah thats the android apk, like how Magisk-v28.0.apk just flashes on recovery like a recovery zip on android

08:38 <KanjiMonster> so I guess this is the custom binary format v3, not the tar-like v2

08:41 <Habbie> correct

08:41 <Habbie> i learned 'apk adbdump' recently

08:42 <KanjiMonster> so the answer is "apk extract --allow-untrusted" (using the apk from staging_dir/host/bin)

08:42 <Habbie> ah

08:43 <KanjiMonster> doesn't help that the staging apk has help disabled

08:44 <Habbie> yeah. i think we should change that

08:44 <Habbie> you're not usually tight on space there :)

08:44 <KanjiMonster> mostly I'm trying to figure out where /etc/apk/arch is coming from

08:44 <Habbie> i booted an alpine container to read help last week

08:45 <KanjiMonster> because it seems imagebuilder generated images always have this set to x86_64, regardless of the target

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09:01 <KanjiMonster> looks like these indexes apk generates (APKINDEX.*.tar.gz) aren't gz either

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09:06 <Habbie> are they called tar.gz?

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09:17 <KanjiMonster> yes

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09:42 <ynezz> KanjiMonster: staging apk should have help enabled https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/b2a84c86, but probably its being stripped (or disabled again by other means?) when apk is being transferred into imagebuilder?

09:46 <KanjiMonster> ynezz: both the downloaded IB's apk and the one in my local build tree from yesterday say "ERROR: This apk-tools has been built without help"

09:48 <KanjiMonster> I also see no lua in build_dir/host

09:49 <ynezz> I just finished build and I've apk with help, so there is probably something else going on?

09:52 <ynezz> ah, maybe "Program lua5.3 found: YES (/usr/bin/lua5.3)" ?

09:53 <KanjiMonster> that might be it

09:54 <Habbie> i don't use imagebuilder and my apk does not have help

09:55 <Habbie> mm lua

09:56 <ynezz> staging_dir/host/bin/meson.py --internal exe --capture src/help.h -- /usr/bin/lua5.3 ../src/genhelp.lua

09:58 <KanjiMonster> no lua on my host system, so /usr/bin/lua5.3 does not exist

09:58 <KanjiMonster> and I assume neither on the autobuilders

09:58 <ynezz> yes, the same applies to buildbot

09:59 <ynezz> this is leakage of the host system into the build anyway

10:04 <KanjiMonster> I found a lua in build_dir/hostpkg, but it's lua 5.1, not lua 5.3 (and installed in staging_dir/hostpkg) - what's the difference between /host and /hostpkg?

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10:08 <ynezz> can you try https://paste.debian.net/plain/1335482 ?

10:09 <ynezz> Program lua5.3 found: YES (/var/home/ynezz/dev/openwrt/openwrt.git/staging_dir/hostpkg/bin/lua5.3)

10:10 <ynezz> meson.py --internal exe --capture src/help.h -- /var/home/ynezz/dev/openwrt/openwrt.git/staging_dir/hostpkg/bin/lua5.3

10:10 <KanjiMonster> ynezz: MESON_ARGS has -Dlua_version=5.1

10:10 <ynezz> this is for target

10:10 <KanjiMonster> ah, I see

10:10 <ynezz> maybe we could do the same for the host?

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10:11 <KanjiMonster> seems to work: Program lua5.1 found: YES (/home/jonas/opensource/openwrt/jogo/staging_dir/hostpkg/bin/lua5.1)

10:12 <ynezz> yep

10:12 <KanjiMonster> tho it also says "Run-time dependency lua5.1 found: NO (tried pkgconfig and cmake)"

10:16 <ynezz> its probably not needed for help, its just generating help.h so its probably shared by the host/target in the end

10:17 <ynezz> https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/apk-tools/-/blob/master/src/meson.build?ref_type=heads#L123

10:17 <KanjiMonster> yeah, seems to work fine without it

10:18 <KanjiMonster> since I can't find any other packages using lua5.3/host I'd say let's just set the luaversion to 5.1 for host as well

10:18 <ynezz> +1

10:19 <KanjiMonster> probably doesn't fix the broken arch in IB images tho ;p

10:19 <Habbie> i see 5.1 in my hostpkg, fwiw

10:20 <KanjiMonster> right, it is build because apk/host as it as a dependency, but nobody told apk/host to use it (and default version it tries to use is 5.3)

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10:21 <Habbie> ohh. an apk problem i can work on in -work- hours

10:22 <ynezz> lovely :)

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10:29 <KanjiMonster> Habbie: which one, the broken arch in IB?

10:30 <Habbie> no, the "Store packages" step in multi-arch-test-build is broken

10:31 <KanjiMonster> ah, so nothing from here

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10:39 <ynezz> the above failures are related to the recent apk bump (CI didn't catched it), thus going to be fixed with https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/16951

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10:52 <Habbie> is 24.10 switched to apk?

10:53 <Habbie> oh i'll just check

10:53 <ynezz> Habbie: no

10:53 <Habbie> ok cool

10:53 <Habbie> so the reusable multi arch workflow needs to support both

10:53 <Habbie> or be split again

10:54 <Habbie> fine

10:55 <ynezz> KanjiMonster: do you plan to fix that apk help by yourself?

10:56 <KanjiMonster> ynezz: sorry, I also need to sometimes do actual work stuff ;P Give me a second

10:56 <ynezz> KanjiMonster: sure, no worries, if you don't plan to do that, I'll do it, that was basically the question :P

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11:07 <KanjiMonster> ynezz: https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/compare/main...KanjiMonster:openwrt:jogo_fix_apk_host_help

11:12 <ynezz> KanjiMonster: awesome, thanks!

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11:40 <KanjiMonster> pushed

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12:27 <robimarko> It seems they fixed the no buffer space upstream: https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/apk-tools/-/commit/e3464d096708b270138653ef93db59134bb24813

12:28 <Habbie> i love how responsive they are

12:31 <robimarko> Yeah, that is not common

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12:49 <totkeks> Hello! Is there a dedicated place, like one special forum thread or something, to post issues with the new packaging system (apk)? or should I just ask here / create a new thread on forum for each issue?

12:55 <ynezz> robimarko: which "no buffer space" case exactly?

13:02 <ynezz> robimarko: just asking, because to me its not clear from that diff and/or Git commit description :P

13:04 <robimarko> ynezz: https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/apk-tools/-/issues/11038

13:05 <robimarko> I am guessing that should be the same as the revert reason: https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/dab5ca818ef46b32a9c120b5136fd5a1a34a88a5

13:10 <ynezz> robimarko: that one was fixed via https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/apk-tools/-/commit/417a93ceae540444fdbd3f76d1dadf0e15621fdc

13:10 <ynezz> you can see it in that merge request on the last line "Timo Teräs closed with commit 417a93ce 1 day ago"

13:11 <ynezz> and that commit actually contains "fixes #11038" which makes it clear

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13:11 <robimarko> Yeah, that makes sense

13:11 <ynezz> I'm actually trying to backport that in https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/16951 but it fails on CI, need to dig into this

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13:17 <ynezz> robimarko: we currently don't test apk changes on the CI, so you need to remove/add the 'ci:target:mediatek:filogic' to see the issue

13:17 <ynezz> so the CI green status is bit misleading in this situations

13:17 <robimarko> ynezz: I was just rebasing as revert was already merged

13:18 <robimarko> I have applied that locally, lets see if it pops up

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13:19 <robimarko> Well, locally qualcommax still build happily

13:20 <ynezz> yes, mediatek/filogic builds here as well, yet the CI fails

13:21 <ynezz> I assume its maybe because the build is not using s3 cache

13:21 <ynezz> so it might behave differently then the full build?

13:22 <ynezz> BTW Ansuel seems to bisect that /dev/zero no buffer issue to https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/apk-tools/-/commit/b231eacd8121

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13:44 <ynezz> CI fails due to "linux-mediatek_filogic/linux-6.6.60.141efc9e/net/netfilter/ipvs/ip_vs_wrr.ko': No space left on device" is this common?

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14:13 <stintel> ugh what's with those 10GbE-PD switches where the PD-port is 1GbE only :/

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14:13 <stintel> PoE-PD*

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15:51 <mrkiko> robimarko: saw the mail - thanks...

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18:41 <Habbie> aparcar, woops. just noticed runtime_test in the matrix. my failures might be fine for now :)

18:42 <Habbie> aparcar, any idea why arm_cortex-a9 has false there?

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21:11 <hauke> The build creates the /run/apk/db.lock file. we should not add it to the image

21:13 <dwfreed> yeah, image build should include the contents of /run completely

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21:29 <hauke> dwfreed: /run should be on tmp fs

21:29 <hauke> I wanted to create a symlink to /var/run

21:30 <dwfreed> hauke: sure, but during an image build, you can't exactly mount filesystems without being root :)

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22:09 <hauke> dwfreed: Just deleting it later should be fine, see https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/16961/files

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23:14 <dwfreed> hauke: I just realized I typoed earlier, I meant *exclude* not *include*

23:15 <dwfreed> talk about a brainfart

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