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<pq> emersion, swick[m], I'm back now, but it's end-of-day so tomorrow really. Is the libdisplay-info doc in place explaining what's stable and what's not? I'll try to have a look tomorrow.
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<mjt> how to remap keyboard keys? with X11 there were xmodmap. But with wayland?
<emersion> the sway wiki has clues
<mjt> it smells like sway is The wayland compositor these days :)
<daniels> well, it's one of them
<ManMower> there used to be a reference compositor, back in the old days.
<emersion> sway users are more likely than others to want to do this
<mjt> why?
<emersion> thankfully, the solution only requires xkbcommon, nothing sway-specific
<emersion> because it's kind of a "power user" feature kind of thing
<mjt> actually I found another source of info. The manufacturer of my new keyboard included a reference for linux, including key remappingm :)
<emersion> hardware accelerated key remapping
<mjt> heh
<mjt> some of these keyboads have hardware remapping capabilities
<mjt> it's keychron k3 - this one doesn't, but there's keychron linux group on fb
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<mjt> ManMower: there used to be a reference compositor.. do you mean weston or sway? :)
<kennylevinsen> weston
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<mjt> weston does exist still :)
<mjt> I weren't able to use it no matter how I tried though, due to bus
<mjt> bugs
<kennylevinsen> yeah but its state as reference compositor is a little more complicated these days
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<kennylevinsen> what is a reference compositor? one implementing all protocols? only core? can it be opinionated and have real features or should it be barebones? should it be a desktop-centric compositor? etc.
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<daniels> mjt: oh, I thought the wlfreerdp issues were caused by your own experiments
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<mjt> these are bugs. pars (most) in wayland parts in wlfreerdp
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<mjt> I ended up switching back to ol'good Xorg in the end
<daniels> ah
<mjt> none of wayland stuff worked - neither with native wayland apps (wlfreerdp) nor with x11 variants of those
<mjt> with weston it is most problematic. with sway it *almost* works
<mjt> (sway 1.8 has some weird issues with multiple monitors)
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<uniqdom> Hello, I'm new trying Wayland by using Weston in X11. Is there a way to copy/paste between Weston and X11 apps?
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<i509VCB> Some of the Wayland protocols are inconsistent around what should happen to child objects when the global is destroyed by the client. The xdg_wm_base raises a protocol error if any child objects are alive when the destructor is called, but other protocols simply make these child objects inert or the child objects continue to be valid. This inconsistentcy is intentional or should protocols be following one of the cases?
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<vyivel> i509VCB: in xdg_wm_base case, destroying while at least one toplevel is alive is illegal as it's used for pinging; otherwise, it makes little sense to keep an unused object alive, so other protocol extensions allow to destroy the shell object
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