ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput
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<dviola>
soreau: so I tried older mesa, then compiled sway against it with PKG_CONFIG_PATH, no luck
<soreau>
you don't need to do that really..
<soreau>
since GL API doesn't really change, you can just set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point sway to the new mesa
<soreau>
and in fact, if you didn't set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it probably uses system mesa
<soreau>
check the logs
<dviola>
the logs say that it's using my mesa build, but it's still using libglvnd from the system, etc
<dviola>
I guess that's ok
<dviola>
when doing ldd on the sway binary only libgbm.so.1 points to my mesa build
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<dviola>
I'll try an older qemu version next, it's apparently not the kernel and not mesa either
<dviola>
oldest mesa version I tried: 24.1.7 -- it was working back then
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<llyyr>
dviola: you don't need to do that, just do meson devenv -C build in your mesa directory and start sway from that shell
<llyyr>
it should just automatically use the mesa inside your build folder
<wlb>
wayland Issue #507 opened by () protocol: clarify whether wl_keyboard.key and wl_keyboard.modifiers serials must be the same when corresponding to the same physical action https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/-/issues/507
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<mvlad>
kennylevinsen, any chance we could get back (implicit) session activation as an option? Using chvt seems a bit hacky...
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<kennylevinsen>
mvlad: hmm, there’s some conflicting requirements as it was specifically for Weston where someone wanted to run in the background. Login managers issue a chvt on their own so it’s not *that* hacky, but I definitely didn’t expect this to have this many conflicting cases.
<kennylevinsen>
Problem with adding an option to select is that it would be new API, so not 0.9.2 material :/
<kennylevinsen>
If 0.9 is too big an issue, the only real option is reverting it in 0.9.2 and trying again later - tbf it seemed like only a single person asked about the feature of staying in the background so probably not a huge deal to revert if we go that way for now
<mvlad>
kennylevinsen, oh, no need to revert, whenever you can do a new release. I suppose that's basically (potentially) 1.x?
<kennylevinsen>
0.10, 1.0, potato tomato
<mvlad>
ah, yeah :p
<kennylevinsen>
But if it’s wrecking havoc everywhere, a revert is an option - but for 0.10 having a nice way to explicitly request activation at the start would be a goal
<kennylevinsen>
E.g. by just having an easy way to do a switch_session to self
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<mvlad>
on my side this depends if yocto/OE picked that version that up or not (idk if they did at this point). Even so, you've already mentioned how to do handle that from the systemd unit. I think we're fine at the moment, and if you do a 0.10 release with an option to do that implicitly would be great.
<kennylevinsen>
Sure - and keep me up to date if things go sour :)
<mvlad>
will do, thanks kennylevinsen!
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<Consolatis>
using wl_output object ids is pretty hacky (e.g. waiting for a bind in the future) and breaks synchronization points in case a client hasn't bound the output global. It also causes the client to receive events on *all* bound object ids of a given wl_output (e.g. shared wayland connection with for example libraries)