01:42 <karenw> Can you have multiple pointers or keyboards (from multiple wl_seats) focusing the same window?

01:50 <FreeFull> I believe you can

01:59 <karenw> Good good, not too difficult to make Window.Focus a set instead of a singleton per-window.

02:08 <karenw> Window needing to be able to access cursors to change them breaks the otherwise neat seperation between 'window' and 'seat' I have. But api bends to the needs of reality, not the other way around.

02:32 <kode54> DemiMarie: yes, input events exactly over Xwayland windows. Easily observed with XEyes

02:59 <karenw> Oh yeah, xeyes is super cursed on (x)wayland

03:00 <karenw> I assume a 'wleyes' is impossible without compositor-specific protocol?

03:09 <emersion> correct

03:24 <karenw> So. wl_cursor vs wl_shape gives me different sized cursors. What's the correct size to pass to wl_cursor other than "Try XCURSOR_SIZE in the environment, then guess just 24 arbitarily"

03:24 <karenw> *wp_cursor_shape

03:32 <DemiMarie> emersion: Would creating a fullscreen transparent X11 window be a reasonable workaround?

03:33 <DemiMarie> These are legacy GTK3 applications, and they will eventually be replaced with something using layer-shell but that will take quite a while because the new UX will be completely different.

03:44 <soreau> DemiMarie: if you do the fs transparent thing, you'd probably want to propagate the click to the surface beneath the transparent surface