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<Not-8046> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/47f1b66d8ba3...eda361764839
<Not-8046> [haiku/website] threedeyes eda3617 - Fix Russian-speaking group in Telegram
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<Skipp_OSX> anybody around?
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<yann64[m]> Feeling alone? 😊
<Skipp_OSX> wondering if thumbnails work for anybody
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<yann64[m]> Last time I checked (few months ago) it was
<yann64[m]> Think it got broken?
<yann64[m]> Will check
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<yann64[m]> Skipp_OSX: Upgraded to the latest nightly, and thumbnails are indeed not generating
<yann64[m]> Ho, and i18n has mostly gone, but I think this is a known regression
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<extrowerk_3> Moin'
<extrowerk_3> waddlesplash: : you have probably already seen this, but in case not i assume it can be interesting for you: https://github.com/managarm/mlibc
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<Not-8046> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5c2580de2ad0...13e257a27294
<Not-8046> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie 13e257a - llvm12: adjust cmake library paths
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<andreasdr> Hi
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<Niklas[m]> Has anyone else noticed a very slow startup of the Midnight Commander (mc) terminal tool on Haiku?
<Niklas[m]> I use this tool excessively on all devices and normally it starts in less than a second,even on the RPi400 (OS on SD card) and cheap vServers,but on my Haiku machine (i7 CPU,fast SSD storage,no other stuff open) it takes more than 10 or 20 seconds sometimes.CPU usage is still near to zero while loading.
<Diver> i think it is caused by dns lookup
<Niklas[m]> Is it doing anything shady I should know?
<Niklas[m]> I don't expect a file manager to do any DNS lookup o.O
<Diver> try to google "mc slow start"
<Diver> mc is built with smb support
<Niklas[m]> I don't use Google,but I'll MetaGer it,thanks
<Niklas[m]> Git clone was also slower than usual today on my Haiku machine,so that could be the reason,thanks.
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<humdinger> nephele: hullo. Should I include you in the header of the changes of https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Renga/pull/83 ?
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<Anarchos> hello
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<Scarecrow> It's been quite a while since I used Haiku, is there a good XMPP client that supports OMEMO yet?
<humdinger> I dunno. Renga does not yet AFAIK.
<humdinger> there are two in HaikuDepot Never tried those, and I actually pretty much only IRC up to now.
<Scarecrow> no OMEMO, no MUC; it's not there yet
<humdinger> many unticket boxes there :)
<humdinger> *unticked
<Scarecrow> indeed
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<nephele> humdinger: I had answered that in the renga room, it looks like you aren't there anymore. I did layoutify that file so you can include me yeah
<humdinger> nephele: I should use Renga more often, sorry :)
<nephele> as for the instance magic: that was there before and i just left it, i'm not sure if it should be used for the other dialogs or not, though consistency is probably key anyway :)
<nephele> You can use Renga as an irc client aswell
<Scarecrow> hmm, the installer is dropping into KDL on boot, any suggestions on getting it to find the filesystem? I'm using an IdeaPad S10e.
<nephele> Scarecrow: Renga supports MUC, generally, but not many of the MUC moderation tools, stuff to set the topic etc
<nephele> if you just want to chat in a MUC it is sufficient though
<Scarecrow> ahh okay
* nephele is doing that right now to talk here
<Scarecrow> I'm currently using Gajim so :D
<nephele> I sometimes use Gajim on ubuntu, but It's ui is very confusing to me
<Scarecrow> gajim's UI is a complete mess
<Scarecrow> hmm okay so while trying to read from my flash drive it's telling me
<Scarecrow> error: failed to set device address
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<Scarecrow> and request timeout
<Scarecrow> I seem to remember Haiku disliking the USB controller on this machine but I can't remember how I dealt with it >.>
<nephele> hopefully with reporting a ticket :)
* humdinger tries to IRC with renga
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<TurboWafflz> Is it possible to add custom CA certificates in Haiku? I found /boot/system/data/ssl/certs which seems like a reasonably place to put them but it's read only.
<humdinger> How do I make Renga remember the group chats I had open before quitting the app?
<waddlesplash> the equivalent non-packaged directory should work
<Scarecrow> of course the BIOS in this machine has zero options >.>
<nephele> TurboWafflz: Yes it is, i fixed that before... let me look up where you have to put it
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<nephele> Yes should be like waddlesplash sais B_SYSTEM_NONPACKAGED_DATA_DIRECTORY/ssl/certs/
* nephele tries to figure out why that dir doesn't exist on his pc but the email client continues to work
<nephele> Turbowafflz: there is a catch, though... some openssl command needs to be run explicitly after putting the file there, so it creates the apropriate symlinks
<nephele> Ideally the OS should just do this for you, currently it doesn't :/
<humdinger> waddlesplash: would you be the right person to bribe for getting "prominence" permissions at HDS? :)
<nephele> I think it is "openssl rehash"
<waddlesplash> humdinger: I have no idea
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<waddlesplash> let's find out
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<humdinger> thanks!
<waddlesplash> well, I can edit prominence myself
<waddlesplash> but I don't see how/if I can bestow that power
<humdinger> Andrew said it needs an admin team member.
<waddlesplash> well, I don't see an option for it
<waddlesplash> maybe it has to be done via CLI
<humdinger> I can ask him for the exact procedure.
<Scarecrow> hmm
<Scarecrow> disabling EHCI and XHCI modules gets me to KDL faster, so that's ... something.
<waddlesplash> not really
<waddlesplash> try the latest nightly if you can't boot under usb3
<waddlesplash> some changes made in the last week that might have made a difference
<Scarecrow> this machine is USB2 only, it's essentially an eee PC with a different logo
<waddlesplash> ah
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<Scarecrow> aha, it boots!
* Scarecrow installed it in a VM directly onto the disk via a USB-SATA adaptor
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<Scarecrow> hmm, no keyboard or mouse though :D
<Scarecrow> oh, no, it just took a second
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Huh, those NickServ messages usually appear in the control channel, not #haiku. Sorry about the noise.
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<jadedctrl> haiku's got a thread on lainchan!
<Cian> I've never heard of it, and anything with chan in the name has a hill of respectability to climb... is it that type of site?
<jadedctrl> Cian: eee… I really don't know yet
<jadedctrl> seems like it has some decent posters (vocally against bigotry of other posters/chans), but I don't know what the decent/awful ratio is yet lol
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<Scarecrow> it used to be really comfy but then 2018 happened
<Scarecrow> it's better than most but it's still an imageboard
<jadedctrl> Scarecrow: what happened in 2018?
<Scarecrow> lots of general imageboard culture drama
<Scarecrow> oh, might be more 2019
* Scarecrow shrugs
<Cian> I'd say image boards have had multiple events causing them to get worse and worse tbh
<Scarecrow> the big one was 8chan getting booted off the internet and all the users trying to find other places
<Cian> ever US presidential election back to, erm, 1996 being one.
<Cian> all the site and hosting changes caused for whatever reasn
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<Scarecrow> but also the technology board on 4chan has been in permanent decline since it was first added so there's a constant out-flow from there
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