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<ablyss> mmu_man, i think you sold me many moons ago a VGA splitter hub... You know I've never used it ;p
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<bjorkintosh> ablyss, maybe you should return to sender!
<ablyss> lmsao
<ablyss> i wonder but I bet you $10 xbos 360 OS is really beos under cover
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<ablyss> conspiracy_theoryOS
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0406dbfca56b...46ae6d18196e
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie 46ae6d1 - wxqt: revbump for rebuild
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<augiedoggie> hm, the 64 bit package builder seems to be taking a nap :/
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* augiedoggie wonders if kallisti5[m] is around to fix it
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<rennj> a heatmap of process/app launch and the time spent in each syscall/libroot.so foo..
<rennj> Heat maps are a three dimensional visualization, using x and y coordinates for two dimensions, and color intensity for the third.
<rennj> Their typical use is for large two dimensional datasets.
<rennj> something / over time
<rennj> 2
<rennj> and then to the frequency/count
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<rennj> you don't need a weather man to know witch way the wind blows!
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<B2IA> (binky) hi
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<matt1> hi rennj
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<mmu_man> ablyss: where would that happen!?
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<Cian> obscure request - does anyone know how easy it would be to get a copy of the source tree from, say, 2009 or possibly earlier?
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<PulkoMandy> it's all in out git repo since 2003. So you can just checkout any revision from there (migrated from SVN)
<PulkoMandy> otherwise, all the release CD/DVD images contain a copy of the sourcecode as well I think? But not sure if that was the case for alpha1
<Cian> I'm around log enough to remember the CVS repo pre-SVN; actually tried to see if sourceforge's copy of that still worked but it doesn't appear to!
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<Cian> I'll look at the CD image for A1 anyway and then spin up a VM to get a proper filesystem for git if I need to go that way
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<ablyss> mmu_man, i betcha in Bill Gates garage lol
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<badkeming[m]> <OscarL> "Phenom II X4... gets a bit..." <- I use an Arctic Freezer 13 Pro with mine. Cheap and works really well.
<badkeming[m]> (it's not currently installed in a case, but mobo is ready to go if I need it)
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<Begasus> 'lo peeps!
<nosycat> Hi there!
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<Begasus> Hi nosycat :)
<nosycat> How are you?
<Begasus> Fine, I just read that the package is working?
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<nosycat> Yes it is! Got an app working.
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<nosycat> The others also require Tklib.
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<Begasus> Will have a look into that in a minute, guess most of the one from tcllib recipe can be used :)
<nosycat> No worries. Thanks again!
<Begasus> np :)
<Begasus> Upstream PR for gulrak_filesystem got merged too :)
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning. Whats up?
<nosycat> Hello! No news from me today.
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi no news can be good news :)))
<andreasdr[m]> Just wanted so say Hi!
<andreasdr[m]> What is gulrak filesystem?
<nosycat> No idea. People were talking about it over the weekend.
<andreasdr[m]> Oh i see
<andreasdr[m]> Just a std::filesystem replacement?
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<nosycat> For C++11, yes. That's useful.
<Begasus> Used by doxygen :)
<Begasus> 'lo andreasdr[m] :)
<nosycat> I still stick to C++11 for my own stuff.
<Begasus> I'm not a developer, so I go what compiler works for me :)
<Begasus> and depending libs ...
<nosycat> Packaging work is important too.
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<Begasus> On that note, tklib packages fine, just got some errors when trying to run the tests
<Begasus> can't find package term::ansi::code::attr
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<nosycat> Begasus: that should be in tcllib.
<Begasus> yeah, added it as a requirement for the test, but no luck still
<nosycat> If it's not there, dunno.
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<nephele> Do we have documentation for the joystick api? I have a Saitek X52 HOTAS now, i'd like to use it with Haiku
<Begasus> needed tk$secondaryArchSuffix for the tests it seems :)
<andreasdr[m]> Good morning, Begasus and Nephele
<Begasus> k, with tk and tcllib in TEST_REQUIRES it's looking good :)
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<nosycat> W00t!
<Begasus> cleaning up and doing some random checks, if those are OK I'll push tklib to haikuports :)
<nosycat> Awesome!
<Begasus> Adding them to REQUIRES, as Gentoo seem to require them at runtime too (although haikuporter didn't complain about it missing there)
<nosycat> Interesting.
<Begasus> I guess I should add tcl also to the tcllib recipe as a requirement: https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-tcltk/tcllib/dependencies
<Begasus> You know tdom nosycat ?
<Begasus> it's mentioned in the link above
<nosycat> It's a well-known Tcl extension.
<Begasus> A XML/DOM/XPath/XSLT Implementation for Tcl
<Begasus> maybe worth to look into?
<nosycat> Right! Didn't know it depended on tcllib.
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<nosycat> Might have to in the future, but I had my reasons to avoid it so far.
<Begasus> tcllib depends on tdom
<Begasus> ah k, not going there for now then :)
<Begasus> hi humdinger !
<humdinger> hullo all
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<Begasus> 'lo matt1
<nosycat> Wait, how? You already ported tcllib over.
<matt1> 'lo Begasus
<nosycat> In fact I have tcllib installed in Debian without tdom.
<Begasus> yeah, Gentoo mentiones it as a dependency, but seems tcllib is OK without it
<nosycat> Weeeird.
<Begasus> Fedora doesn't mention it
<matt1> Begasus : gentoo => chroot
<Begasus> Arch also not :)
<Begasus> so safe to asume we don't need it for now
<nosycat> Whew.
<Begasus> k, tklib should be fine, updating tcllib to have it require tcl also
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/46ae6d18196e...df79ba2b170b
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus df79ba2 - tcllib, make it depend on tcl (#7868)
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<Begasus> No real change there nosycat , only added the tcl dependency :)
<nosycat> Right.
<Begasus> ready on 64bit
<nosycat> It's no hurry.
<Begasus> I'm good, just cleaning out the builds here and will push tklib in a bit :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/df79ba2b170b...3650d6306c46
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 3650d63 - tklib, new recipe (#7869)
<Begasus> Crossing fingers, on 64bit it will be a while, wxqt is building at the buildmaster
<nosycat> :D
<nosycat> I'm on 32-bit anyway.
<Begasus> Ah ok, my main target too :)
<nosycat> Makes for a smaller VM. ;)
<nosycat> Also I'm eyeing an old laptop.
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<Begasus> Using a laptop for main packaging on an older laptop also, working native (with 32bit and 64bit in the bootmenu)
<andreasdr[m]> <3
<nosycat> Niiice.
<Begasus> Only thing missing is support for wifi, otherwise it's pretty well supported
<nosycat> Same old story.
<Begasus> This (new) laptop doesn't have a LAN connection and the wifi isn't showing up either in Haiku
<nosycat> Oh.
<Begasus> can't have it all :) didn't check the specs yet for the wifi on this one
<Begasus> radeon graphics, so need to disable that
<Begasus> nosycat, should be ready to install on 32bit now :)
<nosycat> Installed it, now to try my little toys.
<Begasus> Thanks! Keep us posted :)
<nosycat> It seems to work. This is great!
<Begasus> Nice!
<nosycat> For what it's worth: https://ctrl-c.club/~nttp/toys/
<nosycat> You just have to run them through wish.
<Begasus> Cool!
<Begasus> ToyEd launches fine :)
<nosycat> Makes Haiku that much more useful.
<nosycat> Until native ports can happen.
<Begasus> Thanks on pointing both tcllib and tklib out, will be nice to have around for those interested!
<nosycat> Thank you for making it happen!
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<Begasus> np, was a fun side track, and not that hard, main part is testing if if works as expected :)
<Begasus> if if/if it*
<nosycat> It should. I've been able to open files.
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<nosycat> Anyway, see you!
<Begasus> cu!
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<andreasdr[m]> Ill have some time. Lets boot into Haiku OS. Arrrr.
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<andreasdr> Arrrr
<andreasdr> x512: Any news about running Windows 32 bit applications with wine64 under Haiku? Would be awesome. Would try Signal e.g.
<andreasdr> Just asking
<x512[m]> There are no web version of Signal?
<andreasdr> Dont think so.
<andreasdr> Just asking out of curiosity. No hurry.
<andreasdr> Let me reboot that Update.
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<Begasus> k, heading down, g'night peeps!
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<andreasdr> Beautiful!
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<andreasdr> Wow. Looks like WebPositive got nicer.-
<andreasdr> Web did crash on GOG.com, but I gotta need my Quake2 on Haiku.
<Vidrep_64> Hi
<Vidrep_64> Just playing around with the new and improved FFmpegGUI that humdinger and BlueSky71 have been working on for the past couple of months. Nice job!
<Vidrep_64> Finally, I have another reason not to boot Windows to do a job
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<andreasdr> Let me check that.
<andreasdr> Ok. Q2 comes as executable from GOG.
<andreasdr> Damn
<andreasdr> Let me check if its 64 bit and can be run with wine_bin
<andreasdr> Hm. Wine gives me a empty "Wine" window and a empty "Wine Mono Installer" window. Seems like I need to extract the files on Windows.
<andreasdr> ffmpeggui looks nice.
<andreasdr> BoxedWine gives me "No OpenGL renderer available"
<andreasdr> Arrrr.
<andreasdr> Oh all apps using GL report that, must be the transition from x512 to have GL/VK renderer plugin infrastructure?
<andreasdr> Very cool. Will try next sunday to finish my eclipse port. Arrrrr.
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<Cian> did the code for netpenguin ever turn up anywhere?
<Cian> just noticed that the version I have here can't show file sizes over 2.14GB in the transfer pane - the total will overflow to int32min and the downloaded up til now bit will work til it hits int32max bytes and then overflow
<Cian> but who was ever FTPing around an 11GB file in 1999
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<AGMS> Cian, isn't there an FTPPositive which is almost as good?
<AGMS> Don't know if it shows 64 bit file sizes.
<Cian> AGMS I'm actually on R5 here
<Cian> the progress bar colour change in netpenguin accurately reflects what it's doing even when the file sizes are pegged
<AGMS> There's an FTPPositive for BeOS, available in BeShare.
<AGMS> Or compile a later version.
<Cian> hrm, thought it was a newer app
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<Cian> the build there is for BONE anyway
<AGMS> Ah, wonder if HaikuPorter has a newer version of the code.
<AGMS> And how much work it would be to compile for R5.
<Cian> code is very much for BONE too
<AGMS> Pity, that would be a pain to convert to R5 network library code.
<AGMS> How about NCFTP or Tiny TFTP?
<Cian> what reasons I have for running R5 don't extend to running BONE at this stage; can use Haiku for that
<Cian> well, netpenguin *is* working, its just a silly display bug
<x512[m]> Cian: silly display bug? Screenshot please.
<AGMS> Hmmm, maybe it is just a printf() string format with %d instead of %ld or %lld or whatever GCC2 uses. Then you could hack the binary to change the string
<Cian> x512[m] its unable to show file sizes above 2.1GB in the transfer window; but this is a closed source app so no way to fix it
<Cian> unless its hackable that way
<x512[m]> So not a Haiku bug?
<Cian> no, a bug in the programme. Which is still used on Haiku which is why I was wondering if someone had found the code. Doesn't look like it
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<AGMS> Cian, try writing to the author? File: NetPenguin-1.64-R5-x86.zip Author: Zeid Derhally <derhally@desertnights.com>
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<Cian> and that disconnect is what that bug wouldn't be worth fixing - net_server crashed under the load of that much data
<AGMS> Hmmm, may have to do some searching to find Zeid, that site no longer exists.
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