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<chadmed> jannau: the kmod bundled with the amd64 install cd seems to have zstd support built in
<chadmed> so we can save a fair amount of space by not decompressing the kernel modules when we copy them over to the ramdisk
<_jannau_> has that changed?
<_jannau_> I'm pretty sure it was not supported
<chadmed> im not in linux but the binary contains methods to decompress zstd?
<chadmed> its linked against libzstd too so maybe that did change recently or we were doing something wrong before
<mps> chadmed: does busybox supports zstd
<mps> ah, separate kmod, not from busybox
<chadmed> yeah the gentoo livecd ships with the full-fat kmod
<chadmed> busybox is there for some other stuff but its not symlinked to kmod
<mps> yes, also alpine
<chadmed> aaahh youre joking its too big by like 9 mib lmao
<chadmed> ok beautiful nuking some more useless firmware frees up enough space
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<ktz> hi guys, anyone else running alpinelinux having issues with loading modules?
<mps> ktz: no one reported yet
<mps> what is your problem
<ktz> having installed linux-firmware, running udev in a fresh installation I can't get a wifi dongle working. When trying to modprobe ath9k it finds nothing under /lib/modules/5.19.0-4-asahi
<ktz> I've sent you many details in private, in case you haven't got my messages let me know
<mps> maybe this driver is not enabled in kernel config
<mps> no, please talk here, so other people also could help
<ktz> so apart from installing the linux-firwmare package I need to enable it in the kernel as well?
<mps> yes
<ktz> shouldn't I find it under /lib/modules/kernel?
<mps> no, if it is not enabled in kernel config
<ktz> I thought ath9k would pop up there after installing linux-firmware
<ktz> oh I see then, thanks
<mps> do you know what is config option needed for this driver
<ktz> I think I do, I'll try and let you know
<ktz> are there any configs you manually changed from 5.19 to 6.1 or I'm good with defaulting the new ones?
<ktz> I'll try compiling the wip branch
<mps> I think it is ATH9K
<ktz> please share your current .config if that's an option
<mps> ktz: you have it in /boot/config-asahi if you installed kernel from alpine repo
<mps> I see that the ATH9K isn't enabled in it
<ktz> I have the 5.19 one, if there are manual things you configed in the new options you better send me yours
<ktz> otherwise I'll default the suggested ones and update mine
<chadmed> ATH9K is disabled in the default asahi config too
<mps> let me check what is now good kernel version for distros, I can enable driver in alpine linux
<mps> chadmed: aha
<chadmed> ive been using asahi-6.1-rc1-2 for ~arm64 (the unstable keyword) in gentoo with no problems, has a bunch of cool stuff like reliable jack support that users may want
<ktz> well, why would you even need the ATH9K module built in since you add them with linux-firmware?
<chadmed> but i think sticking with the last 5.19 tag for stable still makes sense
<mps> I'm getting more and more requests to enable different drivers and options
<j`ey> ktz: the firmware still needs a linux driver
<chadmed> linux-firmware only pulls in the firmware blobs, not the kernel modules (the driver )
<ktz> I'll enable it myself if that's really the answer, its ok
<mps> ktz: yes, you can
<ktz> ok, understandable, thanks
<ktz> how the AR9271 chipset functions if ATH9K is off in asahi then?
<chadmed> i find the default asahi config to be full fat enough for these machines, it builds almost all the externally attachable peripheral drivers
<ktz> it works properly, alongside with others which don't in the alpine kernel
<mps> I thought yesterday to ask what means label "Verified" on tags releases list https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux/tags but forgot
<ktz> but I think there is some issue anyway with the current package as no modules show up in the corresponding folder. maybe I'm missing something but I think they should regardless since I installed the package
<chadmed> mps: commit was signed by m arcan
<mps> chadmed: ah, thanks
<mps> I didn't really expected that the so much users will use alpha kernel :)
<mps> so I didn't enabled much options for alpine kernel
<ktz> by the way this is the udevadm monitor output when plugging in the dongle
<ktz> KERNEL[8291.305819] add /devices/platform/soc/502280000.usb/xhci-hcd.1.auto/usb3/3-1/3-1.4 (usb)
<ktz> KERNEL[8291.316955] add /devices/platform/soc/502280000.usb/xhci-hcd.1.auto/usb3/3-1/3-1.4/3-1.4:1.0 (usb)
<ktz> KERNEL[8291.317138] bind /devices/platform/soc/502280000.usb/xhci-hcd.1.auto/usb3/3-1/3-1.4 (usb)
<ktz> UDEV [8291.317321] add /devices/platform/soc/502280000.usb/xhci-hcd.1.auto/usb3/3-1/3-1.4 (usb)
<ktz> UDEV [8291.317472] add /devices/platform/soc/502280000.usb/xhci-hcd.1.auto/usb3/3-1/3-1.4/3-1.4:1.0 (usb)
<ktz> UDEV [8291.317644] bind /devices/platform/soc/502280000.usb/xhci-hcd.1.auto/usb3/3-1/3-1.4 (usb)yy
<ktz> in alarm it proceeds to create an interface and such
<mps> ktz: ok, will try to find some time this evening and upgrade kernel and enable more drivers and options
<ktz> no it's okay, I think I found my answer, I'll figure it out soon
<ktz> thanks guys
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<ashi> Hey, anyone got gnome-shell / gdm working on latest debian testing? It broke after a recent update. I remember some conversation about this problem in #asahi but it seems to have solved itself by an arch upgrade.
<ashi> sway works, so is lightdm, so it is not a general issue with wayland
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<cy8aer> > Hey, anyone got gnome-shell / gdm working on latest debian testing? It broke after a recent update. I remember some conversation about this problem in #asahi but it seems to have solved itself by an arch upgrade.
<cy8aer> Yep told something about that two weeks ago. Looks like there is a problem with libmutter-11-0. And that was my conversation. I am not at the system actual but I will write a little documentation how to downgrade to gnome-shell 42.0.3 and libmutter-10-0 when I am.
<cy8aer> And with libmutter-11-0 some triple buffering is switched on and I wonder if this might be the problem.
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<ashi> I also supected triple buffering and tried to disable it via environment but it did not work
<ashi> I still have libmutter-10-0 installed but I do not know where to get old debian packages, they seem to be removed from archives, hmm.
<ashi> https://snapshot.debian.org/package/gnome-shell/42.4-2/ oh here, well, I should be able to do that then ;)
<cy8aer> you need this to backport it:
<cy8aer> gir1.2-mutter-10_42.4-2_arm64.deb
<cy8aer> gnome-remote-desktop_42.2-1_arm64.deb
<cy8aer> gnome-shell_42.4-2_arm64.deb
<cy8aer> gnome-shell-common_42.4-2_all.deb
<cy8aer> gnome-shell-extension-prefs_42.4-2_arm64.deb
<cy8aer> gnome-shell-extensions_42.3-1_all.deb
<cy8aer> libfreerdp2-2_2.7.0+dfsg1-1+b2_arm64.deb
<cy8aer> libfreerdp-client2-2_2.7.0+dfsg1-1+b2_arm64.deb
<cy8aer> libfreerdp-server2-2_2.7.0+dfsg1-1+b2_arm64.deb
<cy8aer> libvncserver1_0.9.13+dfsg-3_arm64.deb
<cy8aer> libwinpr2-2_2.7.0+dfsg1-1+b2_arm64.deb
<cy8aer> mutter-common_42.4-2_all.deb
<cy8aer> And pinning would be good too...
<ashi> yep, will do
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<ashi> cy9aer: thanks, works, I only downgraded gnome-shell_42.4-2_arm64.deb
<ashi> gnome-shell-common_42.4-2_all.deb
<ashi>
<ashi> gnome-shell-extension-prefs_42.4-2_arm64.deb
<ashi> gnome-shell-extensions_42.3-1_all.deb
<ashi> gir1.2-mutter-10 and libmutter-10-0 were still there (did not autoremove them)
<ashi> and pinned, all done :)
<ashi> And I also built the latest (yesterdays) 6.1-rc1 kernel which works well so far (needed to disable CONFIG_FB_EFI to make simpledrmfb working)
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<cy8aer> And now I wonder if someone would have an idea why gnome-shell 43 does not work 😕
<cy8aer> yep libmutter-10-0 is not uninstalled...
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<tobhe> fwiw i have not noticed any bugs with libmutter11 on ubuntu
<cy8aer> and they took the patches from ubuntu: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Debian-Dynamic-Triple-GNOME
<cy8aer> my strategy for now is waiting to the next gnome-session/libmutter-11-0 and try it again.
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