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<j_ey> why does the wifi firmware go in an initramfs? it can also just be on the normal rootfs right?
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<kettenis> I think so; that's what we do on OpenBSD
<j_ey> kettenis: does OpenBSD have modules or initramfs at all?
<kettenis> nope
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<jn> on linux, drivers can get upset if they run before the firmware is available; i.e. having no firmware available when the initramfs runs could cause problems if the driver is built-in or is a module in the initramfs
<jn> of the wifi driver is only in the final rootfs, the firmware can be, too
<jn> AFAIUI
<j_ey> hmmm
<jn> it is also possible to re-trigger the firmware load later, but it involves some sysfs trickery
<j_ey> that makes sense
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<alyssa> j_ey: jn is right
<alyssa> In my case, I'm building a kernel without dynamic modules (so I can load the entire kernel over USB every boot -- good for debug)
<alyssa> which means the firmware has to be on an initramfs since the wifi driver ends up probing before the rootfs comes up
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