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<marcan>
pushed asahi-6.2-11 which should fix the M2 keyboard country code silliness (alongside new m1n1) and pulls in some fixes from lina
<marcan>
jannau, sven, kettenis, povik: any release blockers at this point?
<sven>
don’t think so, seems to work for me
<jannau>
marcan: did you test headphone audio on the m1 macbook air? iirc it was unclear if it was working after the PLL changes. I wouldn't rule out that it was just CS42L42 vs. CS42L83 confusion though
<marcan>
let me test that
<marcan>
I think some altdistro folks have reported problems with that for a while now (i2c lockups), but I have no idea how to repro it
<marcan>
it almost smells similar to the CS42L84 race I fixed that was breaking everything
<jannau>
CS42L83 on the mini works for me. on the air a speaker amp is on the same i2c bus as CS42L83
<marcan>
jannau: seems to work for me
<marcan>
everything is on asahi-dev now
<marcan>
if nobody has any objections let's push this out tomorrow or something (cc lina, you get to write the blog post)
<marcan>
I did notice the "pink squares" issue on kwin, but I guess we'll call that a known regression until either lina tracks it down or someone finds a worse repro
<jannau>
no objections from, everything works fine after the drm_sched fix except for the pink squares
<jannau>
+me
<marcan>
it's only on startup right? and I also noticed it on first sleep/resume
<marcan>
but never randomly in use or anything
<mps>
it is asahi-6.2-11 tag? will build it now and test on m1pro macbook
<marcan>
yes
<jannau>
yes, only the first 1 or 2 frames on startup. I haven't any other render errors
<mps>
ok, building it now
<marcan>
yeah, I get it fairly consistently on first sleep too, right when the screen goes black (but never subsequent sleeps)
<marcan>
sounds like an issue with initial sync between the compositor and DCP? but only when buffers first get created (wouldn't be surprised if sleep uses an extra dummy buffer or something)
<mps>
works fine for me
<mps>
on j316s
<jannau>
marcan: fdt_path_offset(dt, "keyboard") will resolve the alias for you
<marcan>
jannau: heh, why are we always calling fdt_get_alias then?
<marcan>
(in a lot of codepaths)
<marcan>
guess that needs some cleanup
<kettenis>
marcan: the mailbox flensing didn't actually result in device tree changes did it?
<marcan>
nope
<marcan>
purely a linux thing
<marcan>
the keyboard thing did but the m1n1 bump is backwards-compatible (and I don't know if you even use the /chosen kblang node yet?)
<kettenis>
I didn't; too much confusion about what the differences are between the apple keyboard layouts
<kettenis>
(and no real itch to fix it since the dutch keyboard layout is pretty much identical to the internatonal english one)
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<kettenis>
one thing that I wanted to mention relating to the keyboard layouts is that apple has been changing the special function keys quite a bit over the years
<kettenis>
and I don't think that is captured by the layout id
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<jannau>
marcan: I hadn't yet the motivation to clean it up but I discovered it and uses it for dcp's memory setup
<kettenis>
although my >10 year old "alumunium" apple usb keyboard has the brightness, volume and media keys in the same position, so maybe that is a thing of the past
<jannau>
if the layout tables in the linux hid-apple driver are to be trusted the special key layout changed late 2020/2021 with the m1 devices
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<kettenis>
the symbols on the F4/F5/F6 keys are indeed different on that usb keyboard, and different again on the my 2015 macbook
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<marcan>
kettenis: it is not, this is why they have separate tables per model too, which is yuck
<marcan>
but at that point that just needs to look at the machine ID or something
<marcan>
I hope the differences aren't too major though
<marcan>
jannau: I think I'm going to have to open an issue on xkeyboard-config to work out how to solve this mess, but for starters, all that should be done in userspace, not hid-apple
<marcan>
the Fn key should be pure software, except maaybe fn+arrows for pgup/down/home/end, fn+bksp for delete, and fn+enter for insert, which are important enough to have in TTY mode and not model-specific
<marcan>
all the funny media key stuff should be done in xkb, among other things so users can switch between F-key and media key by default modes in the UI, not by hacking up module params
<marcan>
and yes this excludes xorg, and around the time we'll probably get this sorted out will be prime time for xorg to die
<marcan>
also, maybe we should do this *now*, before upstreaming support for these machines at all (spi/hid-apple/etc)
<marcan>
because if we upstream stuff with media key support, we enter into "don't break userspace" territory
<marcan>
if we upstream this from the get go with pure software Fn on all M1+ models, we don't have to have that argument
<marcan>
and we can add a module param if we want to get the media keys, and even enable it by default for now if we want in userspace, as long as the kernel default is not doing that stuff
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<jannau>
marcan: that would mean that we have to define our own translation table and diverge from hid-apple which media keys by default and F1 - F12 with fn
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<marcan>
jannau: yes, it does
<marcan>
that's the plan :p
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<jannau>
I just noticed that we can drop apple_fn_keys_mbp13, upstream has macbookpro_dedicated_esc_fn_keys which is identical
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<marcan>
fnmode already has fnmode=0 which disables the fn emulation nonsense
<marcan>
I propose adding fnmode=4, edit keys only
<marcan>
and defaulting to that for anything apple silicon, which gives you a usable TTY/Xorg without anything machine-specific
<marcan>
and then all the other fn mappings happen in xkb
<marcan>
for those who want to fully control everything, fnmode=0 will then disable even that
<marcan>
then we're also disabling the iso_layout nonsense on anything apple silicon
<Tramtrist>
fnmode 4 as default
<marcan>
that needs to be fixed in xkb
<marcan>
yes, fnmode 4 as default
<Tramtrist>
👍
<marcan>
though honestly, I'm also tempted to just not support the media keys at all on these models, then fnmode!=0 would give you edit keys only and what you pick is irrelevant (and if you want media keys on Fn, don't use xorg)
<marcan>
but we'll probably want fnmode=4 anyway so that other older macs can switch to the Right Way too eventually
<marcan>
since we can't just yank out the Fn-mappings out from them
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<cy8aer>
just a probably stupid question: Does xkb work with wayland (cause I screwed up my keytable with iso and stuff to have it more, like, iso...)
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<cy8aer>
hm read marcan's post ok that is all a X-mess no wayland thingie.
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