#asahi-dev on 2024-06-11 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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05:05 <nicolas17> https://github.com/AsahiLinux/asahi-installer/commit/2c5ab624030b721ec4910047e71c24da0c1e13a0 what was this for? (I can't remember)

05:06 <nicolas17> installing boot components from an OTA zip instead of ipsw

05:37 <jannau> nicolas17: trying to avoid the dcp non-promotion init bug by installing 13.6.x for which no ipsw exists

05:38 <nicolas17> and that ended up not working? I can't find anywhere an ota zip is actually used

05:40 <jannau> iirc it was pointless since apple's "fix" in 13.6* was some bug avoidance which wouldn't have helped us

05:44 <nicolas17> well fyi macOS 15 is now distributing OTAs as AppleArchive instead of zip, so all this stuff won't work anymore for future versions

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06:48 <chadmed> AppleArchive being lzfse?

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06:50 <nicolas17> chadmed: OTAs in macOS 14 were zips, containing payload.nnn files, which are lzfse-compressed AppleArchive

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06:51 <nicolas17> in macOS 15 (and iOS 18 etc), the *outer* zip is now an *encrypted* applearchive

06:51 <nicolas17> .aea

06:52 <chadmed> theyre still shipping ipsws though right

06:52 <nicolas17> yes

06:52 <nicolas17> they're shipping ipsws where the rootfs is in a .dmg.aea

06:52 <nicolas17> x_x

06:53 <nicolas17> fortunately asahi doesn't care about the rootfs dmg

06:54 <chadmed> smells like product managers

06:55 <jannau> macos 15 supports nested virtualization and hw accelerated GIC: https://mastodon.social/@never_released/112596475468895974

06:55 <nicolas17> best theory is that they can stop us from decrypting leaked ipsws

06:57 <chadmed> i dont want their leaked ipsw if its going to have openai stankware in it now

06:57 <nicolas17> :p

06:59 <nicolas17> tbf Siri sends more data to Google in current versions than it will send to OpenAI in the new version

07:01 <chadmed> true but i work in the part of IT where the "IT professionals" clap like brain damaged seals at the mere mention of AI or ${thing}GPT so im just sick to death of it being everywhere and had hope that apple would just not entertain this bs

07:02 <chadmed> like i had to explain to a guy last week why simply copying and pasting (yes literally ctrl c and ctrl v) 40,000 rows from a spreadsheet into the web version of chatgpt wouldnt "proactively identify trends before they arise"

07:02 <chadmed> like just fuck off with this stuff already

07:04 <nicolas17> a friend asked me for help updating a mini game for a conference stand, and I tried but my main roadblock was that the existing code was written with significant "help" from Copilot/ChatGPT, and it *showed*

07:05 <nicolas17> I couldn't get it to work by the deadline, it was too unmaintainable

07:07 <chadmed> i got dirty looks from some of the sales guys today because i mentioned in passing that i had banned my team from using it for anything requiring putting customer data into it

07:08 <chadmed> not that i think it would stop some of them from doing it, but at least its in writing that i said not to

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