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<gawin> I've been wondering recently: as most integrated gpus are in awkward spot, too weak for new games and don't have enough raw power (especially bandwidth) for semi modern, is it possible to force mesa to reconvert on the fly textures into heavily compressed ones with mipmaps? (or is it possible to implement?)
<gawin> by heavily compressed I mean newest available on hardware level
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<HdkR> gawin: Just set a global LOD bias, no need to reconvert on the fly.
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<Venemo> hey guys
<Venemo> would it be possible to make the gitlab issue template selection easier to users?
<Venemo> can we customize the gitlab page for opening new issues somehow? before displaying the default issue template, could we ask the user the brand of GPU they have, or something like that?
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<emersion> it doesn't seem like gitlab supports it
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<slattann> Test Mesg
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<daniels> Venemo: right, you can't do fully custom forms, just change the templates inside .gitlab/issue-templates/
<daniels> you can call one default.md to make it the default
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<apinheiro> jekstrand, btw, Im around, as you suggested on the MR to talk
<apinheiro> but as far as I see you already have an idea to try out
<apinheiro> I mean for the vkGetQueryPoolResults() with VK_QUERY_RESULT_WAIT_BIT issue
<jekstrand> apinheiro: Yup. I briefly had myself convinced it wasn't needed. Now I'm convinced it is. :D
<apinheiro> good, then I don't even need to discuss about it, you are already convinced
<apinheiro> specially as I didn't have any other option at hand
<jekstrand> apinheiro: Cool.
<jekstrand> apinheiro: The MR keeps getting longer. I just hooked up device lost tracking. :)
<apinheiro> oh, true we also have that pending
<apinheiro> as mentioned on the MR, my plan was first porting to the new framework, starting with keeping the same functionality
<apinheiro> but cool if we got that now too
<apinheiro> I also assume that we would get sync2?
<apinheiro> didn't check if timeline semaphores are mandatory for sync2
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<jekstrand> Emulated timeline semaphores will be free. "real" ones require kernel work but it's easy.
<jekstrand> sync2 isn't quite free but a bunch of it is.
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<danvet> emersion, [PATCH v2] drm: drm/drm_file.h: fix a kernel-doc typo <- do you plan to apply this one?
<danvet> also the others you reviewed
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<emersion> danvet: yeah, but wanted to wait for a bit just as a matter of principle in case anyone else has something to say
<emersion> though i guess in this specific case it's fine to just merge
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<emersion> danvet: i'm getting "dim: ERROR: Patch does not contain prefixes in its diff and can confuse git-am when applying, aborting"
<emersion> any idea how to fix?
<danvet> which one?
<emersion> somehow the patch contains
<emersion> +++ linux-next-20220401/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c
<emersion> but both have the issue
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<danvet> emersion, yeah people who don't use git are just annoying
<danvet> emersion, dim -f apply-branch
<danvet> it overrules these dim: ERROR: things
<danvet> do a dim -d first if you want to check whether there's more
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<emersion> error: sha1 information is lacking or useless (drivers/gpu/drm/drm_format_helper.c).
<emersion> sigh
<danvet> hand-editing patches
<danvet> it's fun
<javierm> I wonder what people that don't use git use nowadays for patches. I remember quilt was popular at some point, or is people still doing diff -urN > foo.patch ?
<javierm> (or whatever diff options one had to use, don't remember anymore)
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<pcercuei> pretty please
<pcercuei> Then I can merge the whole series
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* alyssa thinks this KHR-GLES31 test is botched
<alyssa> although I can get around it by just not advertising vertex atomics... allowed by all of ES32/GL45/VK as far as I can tell.....
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<alyssa> KHR-GLES31.core.shader_atomic_counters.advanced-usage-multi-stage
<alyssa> KHR-GLES31.core.shader_atomic_counters.advanced-usage-switch-programs
<alyssa> ^ those two tests
<alyssa> The DDK doesn't advertise vertexPipelineStoresAndAtomics ... I am tempted.
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<alyssa> Don't know how to proceed... I'm pretty sure the test is wrong but we pass it on main and are conformant there and ugh
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<idr> When did gitlab stop displaying the entire commit message? Is there a way to re-enable that? It's very annoying...
<idr> "lowering, similar to the one in the Fixes: commit, t..." is not the end of that commit message.
<zmike> seems new?
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<zmike> what's the expected glsl behavior when a shader reads more components from an input than the previous stage's output provided? just read zeroes?
<zmike> or UB
<Kayden> I believe undefined
<idr> I would guess UB.
<zmike> perfect
<anholt> yep
<zmike> thanks
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<airlied> alyssa: proceed by being 100% sure the test is wrong, pretty sure won't cut it, esp if the test has been around for longer than a few months!
<airlied> esp with a test with advanced in the title
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<alyssa> airlied: large numbers of KHR-GLES31 tests have been thrown out / fixed due to the same issue (assuming that vertex shaders execute only once)
<alyssa> (true on some impls, not on others.)
<alyssa> Arm's impl would probably hit this except they just don't advertise vertex atomics I don't think, so those tests are skipped for them I think
<alyssa> maybe qualcomm would've hit?
<alyssa> robclark: Does the qcm blob expose vertex atomics?
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<robclark> alyssa: I don't think it does.. I suppose we could do VS atomics if we really wanted to (either by forcing sysmem path or by running the real shader in binning pass and use stub shader that just read back previous output varyings in draw pass.. but that seems like doing work for a dumb feature
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<alyssa> robclark: right... hitting that dilemma for panfrost, but reading the spec it's not clear that's actually necessary? and the test for that is busted?
<alyssa> We don't have to for SSBO stores, why are atomics special?
<alyssa> 7..11.1 "Shader Memory Access Ordering
<alyssa> " in the gles3.2 spec (or same number different number in big GL)
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* robclark wonders how you can have atomics without SSBOs
<alyssa> you can't?
<alyssa> (Well, atomic counters I guess but shhh)
<robclark> I thought those weren't a thing in gles
<alyssa> might not be
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<alyssa> Relevant question, "that do not cause any previously passing test to fail"
<alyssa> Is "pass -> skip" by disabling a feature protected...?
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<robclark> skip!=fail
<alyssa> :D
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<robclark> alyssa: more seriously, if pass->skip was considered a regression, then we couldn't do things like revert a buggy feature
* alyssa nods
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<jfalempe> If someone with llvmpipe knowledge can review https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/15556, I fixed the tests, and optimized it a bit.
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<HdkR> alyssa: Sounds like a good choice to me :)
<HdkR> oop, was scrolled back. But yes, disabling vertex atomics.
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