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<anholt> apologies for any cheza flakes in the last hour. fritz is setting up a pile of new ones and I had to restart the runner a couple times.
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<jenatali> There we go, VK1.2 :)
<zmike> but can it pass cts with zink ?
<jenatali> Doubtful :P
<jenatali> At least, not yet. Maybe we'll get there?
<zmike> I believe in you 🙏
<jenatali> I'm not even 100% passing CTS yet on any D3D driver, though it's pretty close
<jenatali> I'm getting into some super nitty-gritty details of spec differences in sampling behavior to try to close that gap though
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<airlied> Lynne: nope, but day off today!
<airlied> pretty sure if you fix the lengths properly it should all work
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<Lynne> IIRC I did try overallocating, but it didn't work
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<Lynne> airlied: oh, happy australia day, I knew there was something on the 26th!
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<vsyrjala> narmstrong: your last drm-misc-next->drm-tip merge is broken
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<narmstrong> vsyrjala: hmm weird, how to solve this ?
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<jani> drm-tip
<tzimmermann> grr
<tzimmermann> jani, working on it
<tzimmermann> thanks
<jani> tzimmermann: thanks
<tzimmermann> comes from a failed merge
<javierm> tzimmermann, jani: argh, sorry :(
<tzimmermann> javierm, that's entirely my fault
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<tzimmermann> i merged the fbdev patches and they conflicted with your fixes
<tzimmermann> while fixing the merge commit, i didn't realize that it says 'fbi' instead of 'info'
<javierm> tzimmermann: I see
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<tzimmermann> jani, javierm, fixes
<tzimmermann> fixed
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<glennk> p[]
<javierm> tzimmermann: thanks
<jani> tzimmermann: works
<tzimmermann> ok
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<DemiMarie> How do the BSDs work around the lack of dma-buf?
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<X512> FreeBSD have Linux kernel drivers compatibility layer that can be used with DRM kernel drivers.
<X512> Probably it have dma-buf too.
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<emersion> yes
<X512> Expermental Haiku implementation use opaque opaque FDs (actually pipes) for referencing GPU buffers.
<X512> So fseek can't be used to get buffer size, special API should be used.
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<emersion> that will Break Stuff™
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<DemiMarie> I wonder if there should be a kernel-independent graphics driver project that has a well-defined interface to its host.
<DemiMarie> So that non-Linux is not a second-class citizen.
<jenatali> Are you including Windows and MacOS in that non-Linux category?
<X512> Recently opened Nvidia kernel drivers are Linux independent.
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<X512> > that will Break Stuff™
<X512> It can be unbroken with patching.
<emersion> it can be patched, but it won't cause a compilation error like some other Linux-specific API usage
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<X512> Direct dma-buf FD access is rare in client applications. It works fine if imported to Vulakn/OpenGL.
<X512> Regular applications usually don't care what GPU buffer FD means exactly.
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<X512> Things like Wayland compositors are not regular applications.
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<X512> Usual Wayland compositors can't be easily ported to Haiku because of using epoll/eventfd/timerfd.
<X512> Unusual Wayland compototor exists: https://github.com/X547/wayland-server.
<X512> compototor -> compositor
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<danvet> mlankhorst, mripard ack for adding ogabbay to drm-misc?
<danvet> ogabbay, ping daniels or another fdo admin in #freedesktop once you have the ack to get added to the drm-misc group
<ogabbay> danvet, sure, thx
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<jenatali> I don't suppose there's some database of which apps need which VK versions/extensions?
<jenatali> Trying out DOOM Eternal and it wants extensions that we could implement, but we'd have to emulate, and I'm trying to decide between always-supporting it with emulation, or trying to maintain a database of which apps should be able to use it...
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<anholt> jenatali: don't think I've seen one. tried to do that for gl long long ago and it was real messy.
<jenatali> That's what I expected but still sad nonetheless :P
<jenatali> Guess I'm hooking up xmlconfig to Dozen
<airlied> jenatali: just expose the exts always, and turn off the emu paths if applications don't enable the exts
<jenatali> Right, this is specifically about 8bit loads/stores. I don't really want some app seeing that it's supported and using it, when it'd be almost-definitely faster not to
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<jenatali> Unless the app refuses to run without it and then sure we can emulate it
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<swick[m]> MrCooper zamundaaa emersion: EDID/DisplayID can contain the bit depth with and without temporal dithering but they generally just don't because why would any display maker give a fuck
<swick[m]> max bpc is also still a maximum and the driver is supposed to lower it to get the mode you specified. if you ever have to specify a max bpc something is broken. it really is a workaround for broken cables etc.
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<swick[m]> and MrCooper is right, as soon as the pipeline is not identity you might actually want the higher bit depth
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<swick[m]> we really need a min bpc property. drivers can then just free up bandwidth without any issues
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