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<Lucretia>
that typo is in the mesa docs because I copied it from there!
<Lucretia>
didn't notice the missing t.
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<zmike>
DavidHeidelberg: what's going on with 9989 anyway? you were pushing it a month or two back
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<yearsofexp>
I overall get nearly 10 cites or referring quotes in a day, and those people are entirely civil, so sure I am correct, but I also have 32 years of experience with computer works and research, my brain is not rotten and I do not like aggression or blind disrespect, I respect others too, but issues are very simple to fix.
<yearsofexp>
Just enjoy life, we climbed over the issues long since.
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<DavidHeidelberg>
zmike: we found these few tests failing (not in the MesaCI)
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<derr>
hello, im having trouble with my counter strike, i think its the mesa library, can someone help me downgrade ? .. or help me fix it ?
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<derr>
Is this the channel for mesa developers ? can anyone help me downgrade libglx-mesa0 (23.2.1-1ubuntu3.1) to libglx-mesa0 (22.0.1-1ubuntu2) ? a steam update broke my fps in counter strike 1.6 ..
<derr>
or so i think
<iive>
derr, have you tried asking in an unbuntu channel. What you ask seems more related to ubuntu packages, than mesa development.
<iive>
btw, mesa is currently at 24.x.x versions, so these are really really old builds.
<derr>
that dont sound too unreasonable
<derr>
tried putting the blame on steam but they would not hear of it
<derr>
u say ubuntu huh
<derr>
thanks for suggestion at least
<iive>
you could always build recent mesa to give it a try.
<iive>
btw, your complaint is that cs1.6 got slower.
<derr>
cs is the only game i use that uses mesa librarys ,, i think,, opengl stuff
<derr>
fps dropped from 99 to 10 after mesa library updates ,,
<iive>
that's... a lot. are you sure it didn't go to software rendering?
<iive>
what's your video card?
<iive>
amd, nvidia, intel?
<derr>
,, QUITE sure i tried switching between software and,, opengl
<derr>
nvidia
<iive>
mesa has it's own software opengl rendering
<derr>
tried second non steam , wine versino cs even , same
<derr>
yea,,
<derr>
cs use mesa's opengl ,,, software ?
<iive>
glxinfo -B
<derr>
im not sure,, just,, almost sure,, the upgrade broke my fps
<iive>
that should tell you what driver it is.
<derr>
i can type that in terminal ? *try*
<derr>
no but,, can install something to make it happen,, it seems,, second
<derr>
heh hah hoh,, eh
<derr>
i broken it...
<derr>
needed to install mesa-utils
<derr>
but
<derr>
Breaks: libglx-mesa0:i386 (!= 22.0.1-1ubuntu2) but 23.2.1-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
<iive>
there are separate irc channels for the videocards.
<derr>
i actually have 23 installed and running,, but,, tried to install 22.x.x with some download manually and ,, eh
<derr>
yea ? here on this server ?
<derr>
anyway,,, its a mesa,,,, issue right ?
<iive>
well, mesa doesn't support 3d on most recent nvidia cards. NVidia provides binary driver for them, that replaces mesa.
<iive>
so the mesa upgrade might have overwritten the nvidia binary driver.
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<derr>
not a recent nvidia,, from stone age
<derr>
G84GL [Quadro FX 370] (rev a1
<derr>
i IMAGINE if i reinstalled ubuntu 22.04 (from 2022)
<derr>
and not use steam version,, only wine glclient or such
<derr>
then i would be back to old mesa library ,, but,, not have steam
<soreau>
it sounds like you have broken system packages, and fixing them might fix your drivers
<iive>
strange, I can't find #nvidia channel on this irc network. only one in libera.chat
<soreau>
what does `glxinfo | grep renderer` say?
<soreau>
iive: #nouveau?
<derr>
im gonna keep hanging here annoy u people,, in a friendly manner,, until wednsday,, then i buy a new nvidia card like steam support say :)
<derr>
i was on #noveeau channel,, just didnt understand what it was
<derr>
and yea
<derr>
i would love to fix the dependency thing, i tryed with apt -fix thing like recommended by apt but, didnt work
<derr>
glxinfo cant be used due to mesa-utils not can be installed due to ,, dependenciy errors ,, due to my attempt to manually install mesa 22.1 over 23.x
<derr>
to make it simple ...
<soreau>
typically you have to rip out whatever it's complaining about and reinstall whatever it removes when you did that
<soreau>
but that's beyond the scope of this channel
<derr>
sounds fair enough
<iive>
soreau, of course! thanks.
<soreau>
👍
<derr>
yea, im not overjoyed but yea
<derr>
thanks
<derr>
=)
<dviola>
derr: consider AMD at least until NVK works well enough for your usecase
<derr>
nvk ? nvidia ?
<derr>
it WAS working
<derr>
i had pretty much constant 99 fps
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<iive>
so, quadro fx 370 is G84 chip, same as geforce 8300, nouveau puts it in the nv50 family; should be fully supported by nouveau.
<derr>
i could bring question to nouveau channel when i fix the dependency thing ?
<derr>
i do use nouveau drivers,,, i think
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<yearsofexp>
Yeah, well I do not know where this horror ends up with like is it at all possible to get the conflict on hold or to escalation, but sure I do have everything needed, on very correct track, I am afraid I also am fused into everlasting bigger conflicts like that of full blown war undergoing, appears pretty tragic and disappointing. My compute dreams and arsenal are at max, I can fill my wallet with my wisdom, but the global
<yearsofexp>
results I am not direct regulator in. It's completely chaotic already i.e entirely out of hands, UpTo this point I did not have concept of revenge in implemented form, and I still suggest separation or escalation in matters over my personal rich abuse case.