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<nick[m]1234>
russell--: thanks already saw that. However, i thought that for every GNU project there is at least some Mailingliste to Hand in patches.
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<russell-->
nick[m]1234: phil would know if there is a mailing list, so you can ask him ;-)
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<nick[m]1234>
russell--: probably i will do that. ;) hope i will not get back a "just Google" answer xD
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<mrkiko>
nick[m]1234: hi! Any news / hope for the ipq4xx DSA transition' Sorry, I know I asked you several timesby now, but ... I would like so much to see it go ahead
<\x>
4721 needs to get its first birthday
<nick[m]1234>
mrkiko: It depends a bit on robert marko. He needs to rebase on master and merge the patches already existing in the PR thread. It got really quiet around the PR. :( I would definitely help to finish the PR.
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<T-Bone>
robimarko: iirc you were looking for SFP ONUs, right?
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<robimarko>
f00b4r0: Yeah, I got the AFM0002TIM and the DT one
<f00b4r0>
i just got my hands on cheap PGM3000, AFM0002 and MA5671A from a nice eBay seller who seems to have a large supply of those refurb :)
<robimarko>
Yeah, I got the AFM for like 25 EUR with shipping
<f00b4r0>
I didn't realize how much of a PITA the MA5671 is going to be
<robimarko>
From Italy
<f00b4r0>
AFM 9.90 + shipping
<robimarko>
Yeah, that its
<f00b4r0>
PGM3000 18.90
<robimarko>
Entars or something like that
<f00b4r0>
yes that's the guy
<f00b4r0>
:)
<robimarko>
I intentionally did not get MA5671 as you have to solder
<f00b4r0>
i was affected and the "fix" is trivial :)
<robimarko>
Ok
<f00b4r0>
stintel: I want to get rid of standalone ONTs
<robimarko>
I am slowly getting towards using the SFP ONU only
<robimarko>
Still dont have IPTV working
<stintel>
f00b4r0: main problem is I'd lose an SFP+ port on my switch :(
<f00b4r0>
stintel: that's what they're for though :D
<f00b4r0>
that's also why I wish the m300 had one :)
<robimarko>
stintel: I had to put it in the switch
<robimarko>
As RB4011 does not even see it
<f00b4r0>
yeah i'm testing them in my switch too, standard SFP (no +)
<robimarko>
But it pushed me to finally use bridge VLAN filtering to offload
<f00b4r0>
the hEX S is unobtainium
<robimarko>
IPTV is still an issue
<robimarko>
No idea whats going wrong
<f00b4r0>
and there aren't any wifi routers with SFP besides the hAP AC which is underpowered
<f00b4r0>
robimarko: issue with multicast I assume?
<robimarko>
Yeah
<robimarko>
It starts working for like 10 seconds and dies
<f00b4r0>
sigh
<robimarko>
But, I was techincally forwarding 150+ mbps of multicast through CRS328
<robimarko>
Which has a single core ARMv7 at 800MHz
<f00b4r0>
the PGM3000 runs off of 12.09. Fairly antiquated ;)
<stintel>
I'm going to stick with my huawei ont for now, I rarely have issues
<stintel>
but when I change my mind I know who to talk to :P
<f00b4r0>
:D
<robimarko>
Well, if they only allowed bridge mode I would care as well
* stintel
back to k3s on OpenWrt and woodpecker ci k8s
<robimarko>
But A1 are d*cks
<robimarko>
They are using Multicast Vlan Registration for IPTV, Mikrotik/anything semi decent doesnt support it naturally
<stintel>
would actually be cool to have 2 fiber uplinks with 2 different ISPs, then 2 cheap realtek switches with SFP running OpenWrt, 1 uplink in each, etc
<stintel>
did anyone test L3 routing performance on the rtl93xx series ?
<f00b4r0>
why not having everything in the same switch and doing load balancing there? :)
<stintel>
f00b4r0: because 1 switch dead = no connection
<f00b4r0>
switches die? :D
<stintel>
they do
<stintel>
so do PSUs
* f00b4r0
crosses fingers :}
<f00b4r0>
I'm told it works to conjure bad juju :D
<stintel>
:P
<f00b4r0>
with electricity prices likely going berserk, I can't afford doubling my base infrastructure load :)
<robimarko>
Thats why I have like 20 switches from work stored
<robimarko>
But still use CRS328
<robimarko>
As these L3 ones have a bit crazy power draw
<stintel>
:P
<stintel>
don't mention it, I have dual 1150W PSU in mine 😂
<f00b4r0>
o_O
<f00b4r0>
even my rack servers don't have that big PSUs
<robimarko>
I though dual 920W PSU-s were crazy
<f00b4r0>
ah wait, maybe the itaniums do
<robimarko>
Its all for PoE
<f00b4r0>
but i haven't turned them on in years
<stintel>
it can handle all of its 24 PoE++ at 60W :)
<stintel>
but then you would lose redundancy
<robimarko>
Now my 48 x POE+ seems weak
<stintel>
doesn't matter, it's an unrealistic scenario anyway
<stintel>
robimarko: it's 24x multiGig
<stintel>
like I said a couple of days ago, I went a bit nuts during lockdowns :P
<robimarko>
Thats fancy
<stintel>
fancy, nuts, thin line ;)
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<f00b4r0>
robimarko: PMG3000 is really easy to configure for sure. I'll test it on location later see if it does successfully register to the OLT
<f00b4r0>
I don't care for IPTV (and my ISP doesn't use multicast anyway) so I'm afraid I can't help you there
<robimarko>
f00b4r0: AFM is easy as well once you know what you are doing
<robimarko>
Issue was basically GPON password
<robimarko>
As A1 uses "no password"
<f00b4r0>
that's... cute.
<robimarko>
But you cannot leave the password empty
<robimarko>
So you need to put 10 spaces
<robimarko>
But both the script and WEB UI dont allow that
<f00b4r0>
heh
<robimarko>
But you can export the XML from WEB UI and set those spaces there and import
<robimarko>
But, I also had to change the OMCI vendor ID to HWTC
<robimarko>
As they are limiting with that as well
<robimarko>
Then it went to O5
<robimarko>
My issue is that I have limited time per day to test as my household members easily get annoyed
<f00b4r0>
hehe
<f00b4r0>
now I wish there were an hAP ac2 with SFP. That would be perfect for one of my use cases :)
<mrkiko>
f00b4r0: robimarko: just to understand thingsbetter, since I come from the *DSL world and have zero experience with fibers. I guess my provider will bring me something like abox I can do pppoe over, and get connected (once / if FTTH really arrives). what you are trying to accomplish is to have a more direct connection to the fiber itself?
<f00b4r0>
mrkiko: depends on ISPs. The generic case is they provide you with a standalone ONT, which is a device that takes fiber on one end and copper ethernet on the other. Some ISPs have integrated set top boxes which have the ONT embedded
<f00b4r0>
in my case yes, I'm trying to get rid of the extra device
<mrkiko>
f00b4r0: woow, seems very very nice. I always tend to like getting rid of extra devices
<mrkiko>
f00b4r0: I was hoping it to be easier with fiber than it is with *DSL stuff, but probably it is not
<f00b4r0>
technically one is not "supposed" to get rid of that device, so it's generally considered a hack and may or may not work.
<f00b4r0>
at least here the ONT is the property of the infrastructure network and tampering with it may result in being banned from the optical network.
<mrkiko>
f00b4r0: and what role does SFP play in the classic case if the ONT provides me with ethernet connection ?
<mrkiko>
sorry for the naive questions
<f00b4r0>
the SFP module is a complete ONT, which can be used in a switch or router that has an SFP cage. In my case I already have a switch in my setup, which will then carry the SFP ONT.
<mrkiko>
So technically with an SFP ONT you can get rid of the provider one, if you know some parameters the provider won't tell you?
<mrkiko>
f00b4r0: thanks. So having that setup would giveyou more control and be actually better. Why does generally providers dislike this?
<f00b4r0>
it's a "power user" setup. The ISP wants control over _their_ device. Debugging over the phone also requires said device's LED states etc.
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<mrkiko>
f00b4r0: sure. Well,I was wondering if there where "deeper" reasons for that, like security related or so. That said, you still have to PPPOE in case you provider uses PPPOE I guess.
<f00b4r0>
if you do something stupid with an ONT you could potentially take a whole GPON tree down; so yes, there is a security concern from the provider's PoV.
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<mrkiko>
thanks
<T-Bone>
oic the AFM0002 web interface is indeed quite a lot more capable than the Zyxel's one
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<mrkiko>
f00b4r0: I was looking around. So basically one thing you might do is open up the ONT device which may run openwrt, extract config data from there if you don't know the password for the web interface, and guess the provider won't give it
<f00b4r0>
yes, but typically the password is the factory one, which makes things significantly easier
<mrkiko>
of course :D
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<robimarko>
f00b4r0: Those are nice, I will see if I sudenly have a need for those at work
<f00b4r0>
:)
<robimarko>
mrkiko: You just need GPON SN and PLOAM password
<robimarko>
Those are usually obtainable even with a restricted account, or via SSH/telnet
<f00b4r0>
robimarko: apparently here (FR) faking SW/HW version may also be required
<robimarko>
In my case telnet is way more powerfull on the Huawei than the web ui which is really restricted
<robimarko>
I know that guys in Italy also need to fake everything
<robimarko>
I am kind of lucky that they dont care here, just the OMCI vendor ID
<f00b4r0>
well, no PLOAM is a good hint that they really don't care much about anything :)
<robimarko>
Yeah
<robimarko>
Its worse than no PLOAM, 10 spaces, good luck figuring that out
<f00b4r0>
*nod*
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<f00b4r0>
i think I'm gonna grab a couple more afm0002/pgm3000 since they appear to be very capable and then I cover both lantiq and realtek cases
<f00b4r0>
and then I'll have some spares to try to upgrade openwrt too :)
<robimarko>
You should probably update the FW on AFM-s
<robimarko>
They had quite some updates over the years
<f00b4r0>
well I'd like to, but where do I find it?
<f00b4r0>
mine is running V1_7_8_181123
<robimarko>
I can share what hitech95 sent me
<f00b4r0>
that'd be cool :)
<robimarko>
Its V1_7_8_210928
<f00b4r0>
that's the last version listed on hack-gpon
<robimarko>
Plus even his modified version with enabled WEB UI and OMCI variables being overridable
<f00b4r0>
oh, that's cool!
<robimarko>
You still using the @slashdirt email?
<f00b4r0>
sure
<robimarko>
Sent, WEB UI is rather simple
<robimarko>
But way easier to see whats going on than diag CLI
<f00b4r0>
got it, thanks!
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<robimarko>
Guys from the hack-gpon are trying to get Lantiq SFP-s running newer kernel as far as I can figure out in Italian
<f00b4r0>
if you find the stock webui simple, wait until you see the zyxel one ;)
<robimarko>
Hehe, I dont get why they have to make everything hard
<robimarko>
Why not just keep the stuff everybody changes in the WEB UI
<f00b4r0>
when these things were manufactured I suspect nobody considered the kind of "use" we're using them for now :)
<librick>
Specifically, I'd like to just try and merge the upstream sk-ed25519 changes into the OpenWRT dropbear source, but it looks like OpenWRT relies heavily on patches. I have the /openwrt/package/network/services/dropbear directory pulled down and I can build the OpenWRT toolchain and dropbear package according to the docs on OpenWRT's site. But I don't know how to easily view/modify the OpenWRT dropbear source code itself in order to make a patch or
<librick>
pull request
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<librick>
I'm guessing the Makefiles pull down the upstream dropbear source somewhere before applying the patches in the package/network/services/dropbear/patches directory but I don't know where or if I can modify that without more surgically messing about with patch files directly
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<PaulFertser>
Damn, he left too soon after asking the real question.
<pepes>
He can checks logs as this channel is logged.
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<robimarko>
f00b4r0: Yeah, flashed it with the stock and then witht he modified FW
<f00b4r0>
ok, I'm not sure what to do with the gordon bin?
<f00b4r0>
robimarko: hmm I can't seem to be able to boot back the stock image 0. If I setenv sw_commit=0 and reboot, it stays on 1 (which has the newer image)
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<robimarko>
nv setenv sw_commit 0
<robimarko>
Worked for me
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<hauke>
f00b4r0: what is the active image?
<f00b4r0>
ah indeed!
<f00b4r0>
hauke: not sure what "what" answer you're looking for? what system this thing runs? => Luna SDK (RTL9601B SoC)
<hurricos>
I think It's OK if it goes into snapshot, but the goal of the PR 10554 is only to 'revert' behavior introduced in the 5.10.138 bump for 22.03
<hurricos>
Oh.
<hurricos>
I'm sorry. I should have checked. You also backported to 22.03. -- https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/openwrt.git;a=commit;h=ae1786e54307a319a220c1722b0fb10ac2558d8d. Thanks.
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<hauke>
hurricos: I added it to both
<hauke>
I prefer to backport stuff
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<robimarko>
Anybody going to ELCE or any other parallel conferences?
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<slh>
the talk about needing an ONT is about passive optical networks, GPON deployments, where 16-32 households are passively spliced together to one interface on the ISP side. this is a bit like a cable segment, all those customers share the same cable/ bandwidth and the ONT needs to distinguish between them and prevent cross-talk and everyone sticking to their quota
<slh>
mrkiko^ that's why there
<slh>
's an acziver device, the ONT at play
<minimal>
slh: over the ONT is fitted by the telco when fibre is installed