04:48 <tersono> I'm using ninja in a package I'm building and I'm wondering why the existing packages that use it (via $(NINJA)) appear to have their ninja rules prefixed with +, i.e. having them run in dry-run or query mode. NINJA is defined to pass through the verbose flag but doesn't do anything to pass through -n from MAKEFLAGS, so I'm wondering what the idea is behind using + whether that's applicable to other packages that use ninja?

11:15 <oliv3r[m]> What kind of 'device-types' does OpenWRT accept in the DEVICE_TYPE in the Kconfig? I had put 'switch' there, but I see someone putting 'basic' in there too. What is its purpose, and what should I use?

11:17 <schmars[m]> seems to be used for default package selection. default DEVICE_TYPE is "router"

11:18 <hgl> Ansuel: would you be able to review the refactor PR? I have other changes in mind that can only be implemented on top of it.

11:18 <schmars[m]> there's router, basic, nas - see include/target.mk

12:14 <rua> Hi. Could you help me to review https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/12174 ?

12:17 <oliv3r[m]> so need to add something new then for 'switch' or just stick with router ...

12:35 <Lynx-> with a procd service script what is the correct way to end script so that 'service X status' shows inactive rather than running?

12:35 <Lynx-> e.g. if script errors out

12:43 <hgl> Ansuel: should I wait for your nginx changes to become stable before nagging you about the refactor review?

12:59 <f00b4r0> xback: just sent a short patch to m-l, prompted by your "experience" upgrading NAND mikrotik from old-style. Might want to give it a spin if possible since I can't test it :)

13:25 <xback> f00b4r0: i'll take a look

13:25 <f00b4r0> thx!

13:29 <hgl> jow_: does ucode has the ability to manipulate ip addresses, e.g., given 192.168.1.1/24, return the second address, or broadcast address?

13:33 <xback> f00b4r0: when did you send it?

13:33 <f00b4r0> xback: half an hour ago

13:35 <oliv3r[m]> To allow the realtek dump potentially to be included; I made this one: https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/12541

13:35 <oliv3r[m]> if anybody has 5 minutes to look at it and merge it; that'd be good

13:36 <f00b4r0> xback: i see it hasn't hit the m-l yet; but my MTA says it's sent and it didn't bounce. I just checked the logs it first tried bombadil.i.o which replied with "too many SMTP connections", so it ended up sending to desiato.i.o. I guess server is overloaded.

13:36 <f00b4r0> xback: want me to forward directly to you?

13:36 <xback> yes. pls do

13:38 <KGB-1> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_kirkwood.html has been updated. (100.0% images and 99.9% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)

13:38 <f00b4r0> xback: done. Hopefully I did it in a way that will work with git am :)

13:48 <xback> f00b4r0: nothing received yet :-)

13:49 <f00b4r0> sent to citymesh email; is that correct?

13:50 <xback> yes

13:50 <f00b4r0> it's reached the m-l meanwhile, so you can grab it there too :)

13:51 <f00b4r0> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/openwrt/patch/20230505125403.15780-1-hacks@slashdirt.org/

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13:54 <xback> f00b4r0: how dare you! :-p

13:55 <f00b4r0> i know, i know. Output quality is severely decreasing ;P

13:55 <f00b4r0> must be old age.

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13:59 <oliv3r[m]> fixing the line! :p

14:00 <oliv3r[m]> can I easily add an intermediate config file, e.g. 'main reatlek target.mk -> 'switches.mk' -> what we have now? its a little magical based on directory names atm

14:01 <oliv3r[m]> where is it?! I'm not seeing it :p

14:09 <oliv3r[m]> added an experimental shared file, feedback if this is the way to go would be nice; i haven't tested it yet though (on the train atm :p)

14:22 <karlp> asfd~.

14:22 <karlp> asfd~.~

15:14 <owrt-snap-builds> Build [#411](https://buildbot.openwrt.org/master/images/#builders/76/builds/411) of `realtek/rtl838x` failed.

15:17 <Lynx-> anyone can advise how to ensure when procd service terminates 'service X status' shows 'inactive'?

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20:18 <Slimey> has anyone messed with lldp on openwrt access points to tell the upstream switch about power requirements?

20:18 <Slimey> as in poe

20:48 <dwfreed> Slimey: PoE negotiates...

21:06 <Slimey> i know but say i want to use lldp because the incorrect value resistor was used.. https://docs.pica8.com/display/PICOS2111cg/PoE+over+LLDP+Power+Negotiation

21:07 <Slimey> or for some reason the PD only requests 15 watts but it really requires 30

21:09 <Znevna> what access point is it?

21:10 <Slimey> a couple of the adtran bsap units im messing with

21:10 <Slimey> specifically the 3040/45 and 6040 models

21:16 <Znevna> External 802.3af PoE injector (P/N 1700926F1)

21:16 <Znevna> external 802.3at PoE+ injector (P/N 1700926F1)

21:16 <Znevna> rofl

21:17 <Znevna> so is that an af or at injector? :P

21:17 <jakllsch> why is the P/N the same?

21:18 <Znevna> different adtran datasheets

21:18 <Znevna> tho I can't find one for that injector x.x

21:19 <Slimey> heh no

21:20 <Znevna> no? :P

21:20 <Slimey> file:///C:/Users/brian.gonyer/Downloads/61700965F1-13C-1.pdf

21:21 <Znevna> yes, that pdf lists the injector as 802.3at

21:21 <Slimey> https://www.adtran.com/-/media/adtran/resources/data-sheets/pdfs/bluesocket-6040.pdf

21:22 <Slimey> heh wtf at the first link

21:22 <Slimey> https://supportcommunity.adtran.com/jmaxz83287/attachments/jmaxz83287/elite-onprem-doc/119/1/61700965F1-13C.pdf

21:27 <hanetzer> Slimey: what up slimy one :)

21:28 <Slimey> hey hanetzer trying to keep my head above water at work heh

21:28 <hanetzer> always fun.