15:38 <phagos> I was reading the logs here and noticed that someone said that bifrost is broken and not worth it. My GPU is a g52 which I understand to be bifrost so I guess from that comment I shouldn't expect any miracles?

15:39 <phagos> In my cursory testing, vkcube seems to work well but some of my vulkan userspace apps crashed when going through weston but I haven't yet looked into why.

15:45 <CounterPillow> yes, vulkan on bifrost is broken and not worth it

15:46 <CounterPillow> that's why it's gated behind an environment variable that calls it broken

15:47 <phagos> CounterPillow: thanks and I suppose that makes sense according to my experience so far

15:47 <CounterPillow> see https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/24943

15:48 <phagos> so I guess gles is the best option for my platform?

15:51 <phagos> Also my app supports kms/drm directly but it also supports X11/wayland as well and I've tested all 3 combinations. I'm curious what peoples' thoughts are on if one is better than the other from a general stability/performance perspective?