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<pq>
Too bad I couldn't test HDR mode when I bought it. No warranty anymore.
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<swick>
there might be a way to turn off local dimming in HDR mode though
<swick>
not sure how much dynamic range remains then compared with SDR on your display
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<swick>
also not sure how to turn it off
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<pq>
I only recall "dynamic contrast" yes/no in the OSD.
<pq>
which is off now
<pq>
turning that on changes nothing
<pq>
actually I can't even change it when HDR is on
<swick>
vulkan and d3d have a setting for that so I guess it's something in the mode
<pq>
I'd assume the HDMI inforframe in that case
<pq>
no such KMS property comes to mind
<swick>
have not seen anything related in the avi infoframe
<swick>
really weird
<pq>
maybe DP only?
<pq>
ugh, I ran weston-simple-egl and the spinning triangle causes those bleed light to blink as it spins
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<pq>
I hacked up a little program to create an ICC file that scales down the pixel value so that I'm not "overdriving" my monitor.
<pq>
then set that ICC file as output profile
<swick>
pq: afaict DP only defines how to transport the infoframes and then refers to the CTA specs for their content
<pq>
swick, given the "reliability" of EDID, I think we need to be able to override the HDR static metadata in weston.ini. Let the color manager look at both EDID info and the PQ-mode metadata when coming up with output profile. Would you agree?
<pq>
first I thought I could just have DRM-backend always use EDID values as metadata, but now that seems too naive.
<swick>
the HDR metadata comes from the EDID
<pq>
my 400 nit monitor EDID says 600
<pq>
so I don't trust EDID - of course it will be an option to use EDID values directly, but I think we also need the ability to override
<swick>
sure, but there is no special "PQ-mode metadata" that you can read, there only is the extended EDID stuff
<pq>
yes, that's my point
<dottedmag>
Sounds like there is a need for liboutput :)
<swick>
shouldn't we override the EDID in the kernel already?
<pq>
we could, but that's going to be a bother for testing
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<swick>
I just fear that users will have to overwrite at the kernel level for some things and then on a compositor basis for others
<pq>
we should have plenty of time to remove the override options before telling users they can depend on HDR
<pq>
this is not for users, this is for us
<swick>
in that case, yeah, go for it
<pq>
...or so I want to say, but I know that once people find out, they will use it :-p
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