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<gitautas> Hi! I wanted to ask for some advice, I'm working on a project that needs to start a very minimal compositor that runs steam big picture and any games that it might launch. There is a minimal X11 window manager called steamcompmgr that does this, but since I killed my only other X11 dependency, I thought I could try targeting wayland for this. Is there anything that exists that I could use with the hope of getting the minimal possible latency? If not - w
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<gitautas> worth the effort of implementing my own minimal compositor that would handle this?
<Sachiel> checked gamescope?
<gitautas> Oh!
<gitautas> That's...exactly what I wanted!
<gitautas> Awesome :)
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<DemiMarie> daniels: why is QML so inefficient?
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<naveenk2> Hi
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<ii8> emersion: nice, thanks! I still have to have the aliases in my client anyway I think for the sake of other legacy themes.
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<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !189 opened by Simon Ser (emersion) xdg-output-unstable-v1: deprecate name and description https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/189 [xdg-output]
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<davidre> d_ed: Your are not visivle on irc
<zubzub> is there a case where events can disappear, that is, the server sends out event(s) and the client never sees them? the qbq is that I'm advertizing linux dmabuf formats, I see them going out in the compositor (with WAYLAND_DEBUG), but I never see them coming in on the client... 🤯
<kennylevinsen> zubzub: if the client dies before it gets to read it, or the server fails to flush
<emersion> broken client event loop?
<zubzub> whe weird af thing is that this seems to happen with both gtk & qt, while if I use the weston dmabuf demo client, I *do* see the format events coming in...
<zubzub> all other events also works just fine it seems
<kennylevinsen> Do you see events that follow? What clients do you use for test?
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<zubzub> example of gtk4-demo: https://pastebin.com/raw/dsmtkc85
<zubzub> I don't see format events, however it still seems to pick a (valid) format...?
<zubzub> This is what happens on the server side (lots of events missing because they don't go through the generated c lib functions so the debug logger doesn't see them): https://pastebin.com/raw/jUBgDw8Z
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<daniels> zubzub: yeah, that's quite special, as you don't even see zwp_linux_dmabuf_v1@19 get created
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<zubzub> hmmmm
<zubzub> I mean, there's the bind call right? should something extra be visible too?
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<daniels> ah yes, I see the bind, sorry
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<daniels> the only thing I can think of is that it doesn't actually listen to any of the events, and just YOLOs something in
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<zubzub> to make it extra weird, it does show up if I run the clients against weston
<zubzub> ancient aliens in my code
<zubzub> only explanation
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<ManMower> are some things queued for a different thread that never dispatches?
<zubzub> and it's not even my code, but a very minor modification of wlroots
<zubzub> ManMower: you mean on the server side where it might accidentally run on the wrong thread?
<ManMower> oh, I misunderstood. I thought the server was known to be sending them
<zubzub> on firefox I see the format events coming in o_O
<pq> zubzub, https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2014-April/014121.html has a list of the pitfalls of WAYLAND_DEBUG. I don't think the pitfalls have changed since then, but protocol dumpers exists nowadays.
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<pq> a list of protocol dumpers: https://wayland.freedesktop.org/extras.html
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<SardemFF7> (FTR, I added the “no hook action is "open" action” to the webhook handler for MRs)
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<wlb> wayland-protocols Issue #130 opened by i509VCB (i509VCB) Guidance for designing new protocols https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/issues/130
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<bl4ckb0ne> are the logical events from xdg-output used somewhere?
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<emersion> in xwayland
<emersion> also in e.g. grim
<emersion> ideally we shouldn't expose it to regular clients
<bl4ckb0ne> with the deprecation of the name and description event in xdg-output-unstable, would it make sense to move the logical stuff somewhere else or merge them in wl_output?
<emersion> not in wl_output
<emersion> i'm not sure where else it would make sense
<bl4ckb0ne> ext-logical-output-v1 :p
<emersion> it's not really ext- material
<bl4ckb0ne> its fine in xdg-output tbh
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