#wayland on 2023-02-06 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:15 <haasn> JEEB: what do you mean by ipt then

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09:09 <pq> JEEB, if it touches H.273, this channel is not completely off-topic either. :-)

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09:26 <JEEB> pq: sure :)

09:26 <JEEB> also I had forgotten how nice it is that JVT docs are public

09:26 <JEEB> I could see that Apple would like the H.273/CICP process less rigid

09:26 <JEEB> https://jvet-experts.org/doc_end_user/documents/29_Teleconference/wg11/JVET-AC0317-v1.zip

09:26 <JEEB> they want to make a registration authority a la mp4ra

09:27 <JEEB> which would be nice since I think mp4ra accepts github PRs?

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09:38 <pq> docx...

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09:40 <pq> good thing we expected H.273 to get more entries in Wayland design

09:42 <pq> JEEB, did the FourCC/MP4RA... um... is it a complete mess of confusing pixel formats, image layouts, and colorimetry information?

09:43 <pq> as opposed to drm_fourcc.h which is a completely separate "standard" and strictly limited to pixel formats only

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10:07 <JEEB> pq: it is separate for essentially codec identifiers and otherwise metadata boxes etc

10:08 <JEEB> f.ex. https://mp4ra.org/#/codecs

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10:11 <pq> JEEB, I was thinking of e.g. MatrixCoefficients, transfer function, or primaries.

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10:14 <pq> JEEB, looks like I guessed wrong: FourCC/MP4RA does not include pixel format definitions at all, does it?

10:24 <JEEB> pq: yea. and they just want to make another registration authority for CICP

10:24 <JEEB> not include it in mp4ra

10:24 <pq> right

10:26 <JEEB> thankfully these docx generally open up nicely in libreoffice so it's not too much of a PITA to work with them :)

10:27 <JEEB> I expect the next draft for CICP to appear in https://jvet-experts.org/doc_end_user/current_document.php?id=12568

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15:26 <naveenk2> HI anyone experiencing gitlab.freedestop.org to be very slow than usual browsing!!

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15:27 <naveenk2> it takes more than ~2mins to open this CM&HDR implementation roadmap (#467) · Issues · wayland / weston · GitLab

15:27 <naveenk2> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/issues/467

15:28 <daniels> it loads in a few seconds for me here, including scrolling down to page all the comments in

15:28 <bl4ckb0ne> same, loads in the usual gitlab time

15:28 <daniels> apparently Firefox is pathologically slow with GitLab loads sometimes

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15:33 <naveenk2> disconnecting vpn also does not help, and youtube plays videos very smooth. so do know what is culprit here

15:34 <naveenk2> changed browser too

15:34 <naveenk2> but its fine as long as it works fine for others :)

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15:48 <naveenk2> pq: I remember weston does have manual color space conversion (using some sort of formula/c program) for color values comparison with equivalent shaders conversion, can you help me point to that

15:55 <pq> naveenk2, yeah, grep for opaque_pixel_conversion or output_icc_alpha_blend

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15:58 <pq> those give you the entry points to such tests

15:59 <pq> they're in tests/color-icc-output-test.c

15:59 <pq> till tomorrow .o/

16:00 <naveenk2> okay thanks :)

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19:12 <aaron465> (please redirect me if there is a better place to ask this...) What is the general status of nvidia drivers + wayland? Things are mostly working with kernel modesetting + the "actually restore the video memory when coming back from sleep" stuff... however I still get a lot of weird graphical glitches. I think things with hardware acceleration like vscode are particularly good at triggering it. Even just typing on the keyboard does weird shit,

19:12 <aaron465> when typing a new character the previous one disappears for a moment so it feels really janky and you can't see where you are up to.

19:13 <aaron465> Had considered just giving up and selling my 3070 for some AMD card if it's gonna work loads better. I finally just nuked my Windows install last week and been playing games under steam proton for a while now in Linux.

19:18 <bl4ckb0ne> it "should just work"™ but you're on your own when you hit a driver issue

19:26 <aaron465> I haven't been able to find much/any evidence of other people having similar issues so there must be something weird about my specific combination of hardware or just my GPU maybe... I don't know much about graphics card hardware but variants from gigabyte/asus etc are just different packaging (cooler / maybe a bit of overclocking) afaik so shouldn't make any difference to basic desktop operation right?

19:27 <aaron465> this stuff happens even on a fresh install so my pc is just cursed for linux I guess

19:30 * bl4ckb0ne points at proprietary drivers

19:30 <kennylevinsen> aaron465: refer to your gpu and Wayland server vendor (sway, gnome/mutter, keep/kwin, ...) for support - Wayland is just a protocol, not an implementation. :)

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21:12 <DemiMarie> <aaron465> "(please redirect me if there..." <- Is there an iGPU as well? If so, and the problem goes away when it is used, then contact Nvidia.

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22:57 <wlb> wayland Merge request !292 opened by yshui (yshui) protocol: clarify when wl_surface.enter events are sent https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/-/merge_requests/292

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