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<TellowKrinkle[m]>
If you're in a terminal, ctrl-a and ctrl-e work in both terminals and macOS text fields
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<marcan>
The fn mapping really ought to be done by xorg in a sane world but... xorg does not support the Fn key due to X11 limitations (that event code is >8 bits). Seriously.
<marcan>
(I do intend to move to wayland by default in the near future...)
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<dottedmag>
marcan: Xwayland will still reject the keymap with event code > 255, so not much luck unless you go pure Wayland.
<dottedmag>
... or hack the compositor to remap event code and give Xwayland adjusted keymap.
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<chadmed>
or we could just move to wayland :P
<dottedmag>
move all applications to Wayland? That's a commendable goal.
<chadmed>
eh it'll happen eventually. at least, it will for all the stuff people are feasibly going to use on these machines
<chadmed>
i dont think anyones going to mind if ${ancient_enterprise_xlib_app} stops working here
<chadmed>
rather, that it wont support the fn key
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* mps
hears more than 25 years that unix is dead and will be soon replaced with new and shiny modern OSes
<jannau>
has anyone looked into mbp 14"/16" energy use? died here overnight after 8 hours, most of them idle and without display backlight?
<chadmed>
mine idles with display off at ~4-6W
<chadmed>
screen on idle is ~8W
<chadmed>
redrawing the screen pulls it up to 10-12W
<dottedmag>
chadmed: The failure mode is bad: if a keymap contains keycode > 8 bit, then Xwayland completely rejects it. I don't remember what happens then: either it accepts no keyboard input, or uses 'us'. I am not aware of any compositors that are smart enough to strip keycodes from keymaps when passing them to Xwayland.
<dottedmag>
And that means as long as there is at least one X application to be run, *Wayland* keymap may not contain keycodes > 255.
<dottedmag>
The way around is kinda obvious: let compositor synthesize a keymap to pass to Xwayland (renumber keycodes so that they fit into 8 bits), and do the remapping. But no compositors do that.
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<marcan>
that's good (but still, worried about the attitude/etc)
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<jannau>
also a little bit worrying that it seems to be 3 person operation with one person doing ~70% of the work (based on the committers in the PKGBUILDs repo over the last year)
<marcan>
yup, exactly
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<marcan>
for better or for worse, fedora has a ton more resources/services/tooling/etc built around it, and if we have devs interested... that's a really good thing for us to take advantage of
<jannau>
just wanted to point out that if everything goes right it's reasonble. That doesn't offset the no communication at all failure mode
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<marcan>
right
<jannau>
I plan to send the respin of the t600x devicetree series tonight. If anyone was planning to look at it the next hours would be a good time
<jannau>
the templating for the m1 ultra seems to be acceptable
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<marcan>
yup, works for me!
<marcan>
still no replies on the DART series...
<marcan>
(don't we need at least the DT patch for the t600x devicetrees, on paper?)
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<jannau>
the dart dt-binding change is necessary to pass dtbs_check but I'm unsure if that's a hard requirement
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<marcan>
I think robher will shout at you if you don't :)
<jannau>
it causes dependecy issues since the changes are merged through different trees. so I would hope there's some flexibility as long as the bindings changes are reviewed
<jannau>
I'll ping Joerg tomorrow if there are no updates until then
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<chadmed>
marcan: this is too small to bother with a PR or anything but -EPROBE_DEFER in spihid_apple_core_probe() instead of just returning the error value when it asks for the device info and fails reliably fixes the "my keyboard doesnt work and then dumps its buffer into u-boot" thing some people have been experiencing
<marcan>
that sounds like the timeout needs to be increased?
<marcan>
isn't that logic broken anyway? I think it's missing a bunch of `goto error`
<marcan>
chadmed: do you get the "waiting for device info failed" message?
<chadmed>
occasionally, and getting it coincides with the behaviour described by a few people now where it will dump whatever you tried to type into u-boot on the next boot
<marcan>
that sounds like it's booted then initializes nothing, so keystrokes buffer internally
<marcan>
sounds like that timeout just needs increasing
<chadmed>
yeah
<marcan>
can you try msecs_to_jiffies(1000) for request device info?
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<chadmed>
seems like one second isnt long enough :/
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<robher>
marcan: platform maintainer is who should shout if the dts files start having warnings. Either you or I can take the dart binding if it comes to that...
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<jannau>
chadmed: I've started looking into spihid now that I started using the mbp 14" as primary device (and currently non-stationary)
<jannau>
the non-initialized input devices on boot happen a little too often
<chadmed>
yeah it gets annoying, but holding up the probe function for longer than it already is held up for seems a bit icky
<chadmed>
which is why i tried deferring and that seemed to work fine
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<chadmed>
idk what the conventions are for the hid subsystem though
<jannau>
I'm not sure if the probe function should even wait for the input device registration
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<jannau>
it made developing easier but it can be independent. I should check how the other hid transports are handling that
<marcan>
robher: Yeah, that's what I thought...
<marcan>
It's reviewed so I can just dump it in our DT tree along with the rest of the t600x series if it comes to that
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* amarioguy
begins to write v2 of the patch submitted 3 weeks ago
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<rmk>
marcan: I'm going to add an "apple,t8103-smc-gpio" compatible for the SMC gpio node
<rmk>
I think that's what was discussed in the posting
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<rmk>
marcan: looks like we finally got some review comments on the brcmfmac patch set
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<marcan>
rmk: that was mentioned in the prior review round, it's the PCI revision ID. The mask just allows all IDs for chips where no split has been seen, but if a new one comes up that comment is there so we know where to split the mask.
<marcan>
re gpio, please also have a generic compatible e.g. "apple,t8103-smc-gpio", "apple,smc-gpio".
<marcan>
we don't want to use per-SoC compatibles where we don't expect incompatible changes in the future, and here I don't
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