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<marcan> povik: I get "Detected line-in" which I'm guessing is wrong for a mic
<marcan> I also noticed ALSA control movement with alsamixer is sluggish (I have my keyboard repeat set fairly high and it can't keep up with it)
<marcan> do we have some bottleneck in the i2c/codec stuff?
<marcan> or maybe just excessive manual delays somewhere?
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<chadmed> hmm
<chadmed> definitely some kind of data bottleneck somewhere
<chadmed> if i start playing some audio, after a few seconds it starts cutting out and then most of the drivers drop out
<chadmed> this is exacerbated by messing around with alsamixer
<chadmed> also the speaker mapping seems to have changed because the filter chain doesnt route correctly now so ill have to look into that
<chadmed> this is accompanied apple-mca error spams in dmesg
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<marcan> I did notice that messing with alsamixer also causes drop-outs
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<chadmed> admac explodes if i let it run too long and the kernel starts disabling interrupts which is... not great
<chadmed> (this is the default asahi kernel config minus module compression btw)
<marcan> sounds like a bug :)
<marcan> not running under HV, right?
<chadmed> nope, bare metal
<marcan> fwiw, just pushed ddb349779 (disables HV time stealing in hv/trace_codecs.py)
<marcan> that makes audio work properly with the HV
<marcan> though of course it could still introduce excess latency
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<chadmed> i think the jack codec being on the same PCM as the internal speakers is upsetting pipewire too fwiw
<chadmed> the pro audio device only exposes two channels (the jack) which is what is killing the DSP
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<marcan> it's supposed to be two subdevices (this isn't particularly strange, lots of devices do that)
<marcan> the second one should have 4 channels
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<chadmed> yeah i can manually do it in alsamixer but the jack is always restored to primary on reboot
<chadmed> and the secondary one has 32 channels lmao
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<marcan> the jack is supposed to be primary and the speakers secondary
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<povik> 02:05 <@marcan> povik: I get "Detected line-in" which I'm guessing is wrong for a mic
<povik> yeah, that's wrong
<povik> 02:06 <@marcan> do we have some bottleneck in the i2c/codec stuff?
<povik> i get the sluggishness too, i was blaming the slow i2c driver which doesn't do interrupts
<povik> 04:31 < chadmed> this is accompanied apple-mca error spams in dmesg
<povik> please send
<povik> 06:57 < chadmed> yeah i can manually do it in alsamixer but the jack is always restored to primary on reboot
<povik> as marcan said, the usual routing should be the other way around
<povik> and UCM is suppossed to do it for you
<povik> there will probably be mistakes in it since it's only been tested on mac mini so far
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<chadmed> yeah ive already got the ucm stuff installed, ill have a peruse of it later. atm it doesnt seem to do anything
<chadmed> oh its because theres no j314 conf :P
<chadmed> wait yeah there is i cant read
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<povik> pipewire will probably tell if it found matching conf
<povik> ah yeah, this is what opening a PCM device with no route looks like
<povik> unfortunately ASoC doesn't spout out anything more helpful
<povik> [ 156.905727] irq 76: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)
<povik> [ 156.905838] handlers:
<povik> [ 156.905839] [<000000001873997d>] admac_interrupt [apple_admac]
<povik> [ 156.905850] Disabling IRQ #76
<povik> this worries me more
<chadmed> yeah i think its admac
<povik> it is, see the handlers list
<chadmed> yeah
<chadmed> i dont do anything funky to the build, this is just a bog standard gcc build with no extra kcflags or anything
<chadmed> so i dunno why it behaves so radically differently to linux-asahi as built for asahi
<chadmed> i have an inkling that its just something stupid in the initramfs trying to load every single kernel module at once before the hardware has had a chance to settle properly
<povik> ok. how far into playback it happens, and how predictable it is?
<povik> i assume there's no continuous playback after it
<chadmed> its pretty random, most boots playback doesnt work at all, some boots i start playback and all my consoles immediately get pinged about the irqs, some boots it works for minutes at a time and then only explodes when i try to change something
<povik> argh
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<chadmed> hmm playback direct to the device (i.e. not through the filter path) results in chirping/digital noise
<povik> how do you keep finding these bugs i've never seen? :D
<chadmed> my machine machine is cursed :P
<povik> either machine or you!
<chadmed> could be both!
<povik> could this just be a case of bad DT?
<povik> i mean the irq issue
<povik> chadmed: you did update the DT, right?
<povik> there's been a breaking change since last 'asahi'
<povik> hm, hard to match old DT to symptoms though, so probably not it
<kettenis> ÃI don't see an updated DT on the asahi branch yet
<kettenis> (and neither do I see the corresponding driver changes)
<povik> it's asahi-wip i think
<povik> the new merge by marcan
<j`ey> or tag asahi-6.0-rc5-1
<kettenis> maybe I should check the consequences of that change with OpenBSD
<kettenis> and fix any fallout before 7.2 gets release ;)
<kettenis> gets released
<povik> luckily the old binding can be easily distinguished
<povik> so there can be a gracious transition
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<kettenis> and losing audio on the mini isn't a critical issue ;)
<povik> i don't know your users :D
<chadmed> povik: yeah this is the new DT from asahi-wip
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<kettenis> apparently my users prefer a machine with a trackpoint and three mouse buttons that is half the speed :(
* povik misses a trackpoint
* jannau misses the trackpoint and discrete pg up/down, home, end, delete keys
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* mps remaped left command and option keys to pgup/pgdown
<mps> hm, right ones
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<ar> i used an m1 mbp for a bit, and i missed the trackpoint, physical cursor buttons, and the touchpad was so big i constantly had palm rejection issues…
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<kettenis> any objection if write a binding for the SPMI controller and try to upstream it?
<sven> sounds good to me. more upstream bindings would be great
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<povik> chadmed: are you friendly with the hypervisor?
<povik> i think you are
<povik> if you got me a hv session reproducing the issue, i may get to the culprit quickly
<povik> but maybe we can wait if plain installs of the reference distro show anything similar
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<chadmed> ill do it on the weekend and see whats going on
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<povik> nice, i think i just figured out a new bit/frame clock path within MCA
<povik> it means we can be clock consumer on the I2S ports
<povik> but perhaps what's better, it lets us support the I/V sense capture in a cleaner way
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<dottedmag> telegram
<dottedmag> oops
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<kode54> physical cursor buttons? you mean pageup/pagedown/home/end?
<kode54> I'm so used to macOS that I forget I have to use the cursor keys instead of alt+arrow shortcuts to skip words or skip to the end of a line
<kode54> I keep wanting to hit super+left/right instead of home/end, because macOS makes home/end take you to the end of a document and without moving your cursor
<chadmed[m]> Plasma helpfully maps fn+arrows to home/end/pgup/pgdn
<kode54> cool
<kode54> actually, I think that's the hid_apple
<kode54> wish it also mapped F13-F15 to something more useful by default