#dri-devel on 2024-09-16 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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04:31 <K900> GPUs didn't really have much in the way of power management back then

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16:57 <mareko> DavidHeidelberg: what is the maximum LLVM version that all CI jobs could be upgraded to?

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17:10 <daniels> mareko: we don’t want to upgrade all CI jobs because then we’re cutting off everyone who isn’t using Arch

17:10 <daniels> i think having a balance between 15 and 18 is probably sensible

17:13 <DemiMarie> daniels: from a distro perspective, I am glad that Mesa doesn't just bundle LLVM.

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17:30 <mareko> daniels: s/all CI jobs/CI jobs that build radeonsi and radv/

17:31 <daniels> mareko: do you want to drop support for older versions?

17:33 <daniels> afaict, Ubuntu 20.04 LTS has LLVM 12, and 22.04 LTS has 15

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18:10 <DemiMarie> daniels: Can Mesa be statically linked to LLVM in such a way that it can coexist with other LLVM-using libraries in the same application?

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18:16 <Ermine> I guess each driver will get its llvm copy that way...

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19:27 <jenatali> Demi: That's how it works on Windows

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19:33 <DemiMarie> jenatali: That is nice.

19:34 <Ermine> I wonder why there's DRIVER_GEM, but no DRIVER_TTM

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20:00 <mareko> daniels: yes, new LLVM is required for hw support, there is no point in supporting LLVM from 2020 unless your GPU is from 2019 or older

20:15 <DemiMarie> mareko: how new?

20:17 <soreau> mareko: are there any metrics on how many users use 'old' gpu's as opposed to 'new'?

20:19 <mareko> DemiMarie: I'm thinking of requiring LLVM 18

20:20 <mareko> soreau: no

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21:19 <x512> Can someone review https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/21074 , https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/31185 ?

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23:36 <Lynne> so assuming I'm using a new kernel, can I extract a sync object that I can import into vulkan from any dmabuf?

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23:40 <emersion> you need to go through sync_file sadly

23:41 <emersion> but yeah there is an IOCTL to extract the implicit fence of a DMA-BUF

23:42 <Lynne> sadly?

23:43 <Ermine> I guess new DRM drivers don't need to do TTM?

23:45 <Lynne> also what sort of a semaphore is it?

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