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<SamuelMarks>
hi
<SamuelMarks>
I've been porting libbsd to Windows (MinGW, MSVC) and want to open a merge-request on GitLab but I've reached my "project limit" so I can't fork. Can you increase my limit?
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<bentiss>
SamuelMarks: you do realize that starting this issue by "fork you" and stripping out the pledge to abide by the code of conduct is really aggressive and really makes people wonder if they should give you more privileges?
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<zmike>
is there a reason why gitlab changed to stop populating MRs with the text of the commit in the MR?
<zmike>
very annoying
<jenatali>
Someone set a default template, looks like
<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
sorry for pushing it earlier, I didn't realized the impact for single commit MRs
<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
zmike: ^
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<SamuelMarks>
bentiss - Wait people here don't have a sense of humour/
<SamuelMarks>
bentiss - Like most people in Free Software and Open Source I'm just donating my time here, why not have some fun whilst doing that?
<sam_>
the issue is that real abuse comes in often and if nobody is familiar with you, it can easily look like abuse or someone who is pissed off they can't do something
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<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
SamuelMarks: prepare for adjusting of your levels of correctness :D
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<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
anyway, big issue in (F)OSS community that people can hardly guess your expression while you make a fun (I guess that's the biggest problem, in real life on conferences it doesn't seems to be that big issue)
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<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
s/expression/intention/ in normal life it's inherited in your expression, body language, etc.
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<SamuelMarks>
I guess
<SamuelMarks>
I'm more thinking the hacker culture from the early/mid 80s to 90s wasn't this sensitive
* DavidHeidelberg[m]
wants to live in the 90s Miami
<SamuelMarks>
Coding is fun, let's not use corporate speak to have contrib
<SamuelMarks>
DavidHeidelberg[m]: from GTA? :D
* DavidHeidelberg[m]
see no difference between real Miami and Vice City
<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
SamuelMarks: I think difference was in 90 there was only small groups of people who usually knew each other (?). Now it's like workplace (even if you're not employed)
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<jenatali>
Coding is also work for many of us, even if what we produce ends up being free
<SamuelMarks>
I had lunch with rms the other day, he's a character
* SamuelMarks
is rebooting
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<daniels>
SamuelMarks: the CoC isn’t corporate speak, it’s a commitment to not being horrible and abrasive. agreeing to abide by that is an extremely low bar.
<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
daniels: while I agree on CoC, the jokes feels like labeled with "do not touch". Because someone can always interpret the joke in offending way (maybe any joke which ever existed)
<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
anyway, time to sleep, gave you thumbs up SamuelMarks on your issue for whatever it's worth it :D
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<daniels>
things people say can be interpreted in any way, but a commitment to try is the absolute bare minimum, so that’s non-negotiable
<daniels>
perfection is impossible, but goodwill costs nothing
<sam_>
especially if you're very new to a community
<sam_>
it's not the same as chatting with pals if you don't know anybody.
<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
I mean we can strip uniqueness of everyone to bare minimum, but what remains?
<sam_>
not looking to get philosophical
<sam_>
i just mean the way i talk with communities i know vs new ones isn't the same
<sam_>
but w/e
<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
:D no-one does wants to get philosophical, everyone just wants to get their commits in
<daniels>
no-one is being forced to be a weird robot; all that’s being asked is that you make an effort to be kind, considerate, and understanding
<daniels>
there’s plenty of room for personality within that
<daniels>
and there’s room for missteps too, as long as the intentions are god
<daniels>
*good
<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
daniels: kind, sure, considerate and understanding can be stripping person to bare minimum, because the definition may vary for each person2person interaction.
<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
we hardly understand ourselves as humans, it's much harder to "cover everyone"
<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
anyway, sorry about philosophical talk
<DavidHeidelberg[m]>
time to strip myself to the contributor level
<jenatali>
I'd really hope that someone's personality doesn't get stripped to nothing when you ask them to be kind... that kind of implies that all of their personality comes from being mean
<daniels>
DavidHeidelberg[m]: again, you don’t have to have a perfect understanding of every single person, you just have to have the willingness and openness to listen and attempt to find out
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<SamuelMarks>
daniels - I don't even read CoC's their so legalistic
<SamuelMarks>
*they're
<daniels>
please do read ours; if you agree then great, but if not then we’ll be sad to miss your contributions
<SamuelMarks>
I just want to send some code to you guys so that your software supports more operating systems
<SamuelMarks>
wait nvm they've given me access
<SamuelMarks>
forking off now
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