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<bilboed>
You guys want me to add the moderation bot to this channel (to avoid spam like the above) ? It's already protecting gstreamer/pipewire/pulse matrix channels
<vyivel>
the span must be matrix-only because i don't see anything
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<karolherbst>
yeah.. the matrix bridge doesn't care about IRC moderation 🙃
<karolherbst>
so matrix users can spam, and on the IRC side nobody sees anything
<karolherbst>
and because this is an IRC channel...
<karolherbst>
bilboed: honestly, I want to see the matrix bridge fixed, it can't be that every IRC channel owner has to deal with this nonsense, but sure, if this mitigates the issue at least...
<karolherbst>
but the question is, how does the moderation works in that case and who is responsible?
<alatiera>
I don't have high hopes for fixing the bridge tbh
<alatiera>
impressive that the spam only shows up on matrix and doesn't cross the bridge though 😆
<pinchartl>
for a moment I wondered whether the solution to spam would be using old protocols
<pinchartl>
and then I remembered about SMTP
<pinchartl>
would have been too easy
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<bilboed>
For gstreamer we just gave up and created (plenty of) matrix rooms. But the remaining bridged rooms gets properly moderated AFAICS
<karolherbst>
alatiera: need to be registered to talk here
<karolherbst>
but the bridge doesn't care
<bilboed>
<karolherbst> "but the question is, how does..." <- A matrix bot which is given op privileges on the IRC side. So that when it removes/bans someone it can apply that on the IRC side
<karolherbst>
bilboed: it needs to work the other way around
<karolherbst>
IRC is the main authority, not matrix
<alatiera>
I thought the bridge was automatically faking registration for all the users nowdays
<karolherbst>
yeah dunno.. maybe nicks/IPs get also banned on the IRC side because of spam
<karolherbst>
either way, the bridge doesn't care
<bilboed>
karolherbst: Ok. That explains why you don't get some messages from matrix
<bilboed>
Oh well. Was just a suggestion
<karolherbst>
yeah it's fair
<karolherbst>
but so far most of the channels are native IRC ones and the bridge is just there making it our problem
<karolherbst>
and yeah, the worst part is, that here on the IRC side we don't notice anything
<bilboed>
At least the matrix bot would ensure spam gets properly handled on the matrix side. Give it mod privileges and it will weed out known spammers
<karolherbst>
Whoever operates that bridge should deal with the spam imho 🙃
<bilboed>
(Virtually no maintenance to do)
<karolherbst>
but yeah...
<karolherbst>
if we can get rid of known spam, then sure
<karolherbst>
who "owns" the channels on the matrix side anyway?
<karolherbst>
or rather, who could install such a mod and give it permissions?
<bilboed>
karolherbst: That's a very good question 🤣
<bilboed>
I'll figure it out tomorrow once I remember how we handled that for the gstreamer bridged IRC channel
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<xorgy>
Howdy! I'm looking to make an MR against libx11 but my freedesktop.org gitlab account is not set up for that, can you help me with that?
<xorgy>
Oh I see the verification issue template now.