#freedesktop on 2024-07-16 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-09-08 23:49 daniels changed the topic of #freedesktop to: https://www.freedesktop.org infrastructure and online services || for questions about freedesktop.org projects, please see each project's contact || for discussions about specifications, please use https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg or xdg@lists.freedesktop.org

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07:02 <manuels2> Who is in charge of the standard?

07:02 <manuels2> Standards

07:02 <manuels2> I mean who decides which PRs to merge?

07:03 <manuels2> Are there any reviewers that we have to ping?

07:03 <manuels2> The initial commit of the xdg-terminal-exec proposal is 7 years old.

07:04 <manuels2> I mean I can understand that xdg development is not of lightning speed. But 7 years? Is there any reason why nothing is happening?

07:07 <manuels2> How can I start a discussion that is actually vivid and ends in a decision in near future instead of fizzling out over the years?

07:08 <bentiss> FWIW, trying to solve the giltab issues over these past few days by upgrading/rebooting the various nodes. You might see some more API unreachable and internal errors while this process is going

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07:13 <daniels> bentiss: oh thanks, I was just looking closer at the nodes myself

07:14 <bentiss> daniels: postgres was on large-14 this morning and that node was showing some serious issues (all the pods were constantly restarting), so I migrated it to server-16, but I can still see some webservices not happy, so I figured a reboot might be in order

07:16 <daniels> wait, the pg pods were restarting? I couldn't see that, but yeah, postgres being unhappy would explain a lot since the rendering time appears to be dominated by pg

07:19 <bentiss> no pg was timing out I think, and the webservice pods were then timing out for the keepalive connection so k8s was randomly shooting at them

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07:23 <buovjaga> Sorry to disturb, but it looks like https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/ is down again

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07:39 <daniels> bentiss: right, pg definitely looked quite unhealthy - indeed it's down from like 700ms of waiting for pg queries now to 60!

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07:50 <bentiss> daniels: I've rebooted server-15 and -16, currently rebooting -17, and still haven't touched the large-* ones

07:53 <bentiss> and fwiw, ceph wasn´; t really happy with server-16, so I guess that must also be the case on some of the larges, whichexplain the latency

07:53 <buovjaga> Now cgit works again, I suppose connected to the reboots?

07:56 <bentiss> buovjaga: nope, completely unrelated. cgit and gitlab are using entirely different infra

07:58 <daniels> i fixed cgit whilst you were fixing gl :P

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07:59 <bentiss> heh, thanks!

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08:01 <buovjaga> team work makes the dream work!

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08:19 <karolherbst> bentiss: what's the prefered way to delete all accounts using a specific email domain for registration? Because I think we can remove quite a lot of users

08:20 <bentiss> karolherbst: don't know if the API/Graphql allows that

08:20 <karolherbst> I've added `@sassmails.com` to the deny list for registration, because they were spamming account creation

08:20 <bentiss> otherwise we will have to do it semi-manually in the console

08:21 <karolherbst> I see..

08:21 <karolherbst> I don't think I could do any of those things anyway

08:22 <bentiss> karolherbst: honestly I won't have time for this today. I need to prepare my PR to linus

08:22 <karolherbst> ahh, fair enough

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08:39 <bentiss> damn, everything got rebooted, but the webservice pods are still not happy

08:40 <daniels> we've got 13708 @sassmails.com users

08:43 <daniels> I can bulk-destroy them later

08:43 <Venemo> good morning everyone

08:44 <Venemo> I apologize in advance for asking, but what is wrong with gitlab and when can we expect to have it working again?

08:44 <daniels> it's really fucking slow / hopefully pretty soon

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08:44 <Venemo> it's not just slow, it rejects my public key half the time

08:44 <daniels> bentiss has been looking into it, as per above, and is trying to figure the root cause of database slowness

08:44 <daniels> yes

08:45 <daniels> it rejects your public key because it's so slow it gives up on the request

08:45 <Venemo> I'd be okay with slow, but it doesn't work

08:45 <Venemo> also, it gives me this: remote: calling pre_receive endpoint: http post to gitlab api /pre_receive endpoint: Internal API unreachable

08:46 <Venemo> then, ! [remote rejected] radv_no_tess_esgs_driver_locations -> radv_no_tess_esgs_driver_locations (pre-receive hook declined)

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08:46 <bentiss> Venemo: yes, this is all related to our db not being able to serve the requests fast enough, random components in the middle are giving up giving you various error messages

08:47 <Venemo> oh, I see

08:47 <bentiss> it comes in waves... it was fucking hell for 5-10 min, now only the webservice pod on large-16 is randomly up and down

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09:00 <karolherbst> bentiss, daniels: I wonder how much of the slowness is just servers spamming network requests... as in.. trying to create accounts. Or do we already have stuff in place to nuke IPs repeatedly spamming that or so? Or is it just not relevant enough to care?

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09:31 <bentiss> karolherbst: https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/security/rate_limits.html I think that's all what we have. Any fail2ban logic is complex at the k8s level as you don´t know which file to look at

09:31 <bentiss> on the gitlab side it's called RackAttack

09:35 <bentiss> for signup "The rate limit is 20 calls per minute per IP address. ", not sure if we can lower this

09:37 <mupuf> bentiss: checking in the admin UI

09:40 <mupuf> bentiss: seems like we are not rate limiting unauthenticated API requests

09:41 <mupuf> same for HTTP requests. That could be useful.

09:41 <bentiss> feel free to set one. I have no idea what to put

09:42 <mupuf> We could try the defaults, they are very high

09:42 <mupuf> I'll read up on it

09:46 <mupuf> Seems to fit the fail2ban behaviour karolherbst was askinjg about

09:50 <mupuf> for some reason, there are tons of sidekiq jobs that ran today, and some of them failed

09:51 <sima> legacy git pull with ssh seems disabled, intentionally?

09:52 <sima> means we can't get at some of the wiki repos ...

09:52 <sima> Lyude, ^^ unless you've figured it out meanwhile

09:54 * mupuf enabled some of the rate limits, but couldn't find anything about user creation

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11:07 <daniels> sima: lemme get that happening

11:07 <daniels> sima: you, lyude, anyone else?

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11:07 <sima> not heard of anyone else, we noticed because the board script died trying to update the wiki

11:07 <sima> but for me it seems to affect all legacy git ssh repos

11:08 <sima> daniels, ah works again, I guess you fixed it already?

11:08 <daniels> whose credentials is the board script using?

11:08 <daniels> I did it for Lyude a few days ago, and I've done it for you now

11:09 <daniels> fixing it for everyone would be a pretty ridiculous yak shave, so I'd very much rather do it on an as-needed basis

11:09 <sima> hm the xorg wiki is still not working for me

11:09 <daniels> yeah, yours will take ~10min to propagate

11:09 <sima> ah ok

11:09 <sima> so just general legacy ssh git shutdown?

11:09 <sima> and the board script uses whatever you've set up locally

11:10 <daniels> k

11:11 <daniels> done it for other board people now too

11:14 <sima> thx

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11:21 <daniels> np

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