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<norton> hello guys
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<norton> Check it out: https://rentry.co/norton-a20-micro
<norton> a20 olinuxino micro. trying to install Linux on SSD...
<apritzel> norton: when you say Debian-12 lags, what do you mean with that? Are you using a desktop GUI?
<norton> Yep, it's written in the heading - XFCE. Olimage feels faster, and doesn't kernel panic
<norton> I'd put up with it if it weren't for the kernel panic
<apritzel> it shouldn't panic if it feels overwhelmed (unless you run out of memory, maybe)
<apritzel> what's the panic, exactly? do you have a log?
<norton> It just hangs completely, because it's a GUI.
<norton> On johangse's sd-card-image I have kernel panic too, but it's just CLI, so I get the kernel panic output right in stdout. Though I'm not sure how to record it, considering my system is dead after the kernel panic.
<duclare> btw as said elsewhere, dtbs are in kernel.itb
<duclare> I have serious doubts about olimage lacking gpio support, how do you verify that?
<duclare> Not that I've tried it myself but I would find that very surprising
<duclare> You can type what's on the screen, or in a pinch take a photo
<norton> Because olimage is a general image for all A20, and GPIOs are different from board to board. I didn't tried it myself, but the guy from whom I got the board said that the gpio is not working and there was Olimage installed.
<apritzel> or even better, connect a serial console, then copy&paste, this would even work with the GUI
<norton> no way to connect serial console, sorry
<duclare> Yes, serial is highly recommended if playing with sbcs...
<norton> what should I do now? try olimage or debian 12?
<norton> overall I don't really want to install debian 12... ram consumption is higher.. ideally I would like debian 10
<duclare> I'd recommend you try olimage first and pay attention to the docs
<duclare> And I'm almost 100% sure olimage will support gpio
<duclare> Their docs cover it too
<norton> duclare: which docs, can you point me? I read some of them, I think they are kinda outdated (about script.bin FEX)
<duclare> And yes gpios vary from board to board, that is why the image has dtbs for different boards
<norton> where?
<duclare> 01:14 < duclare> btw as said elsewhere, dtbs are in kernel.itb
<norton> Yep, i seen this file I think. also .its, yeah? the thing is I never saw it in any docs or tutorials.
<norton> what is it?
<duclare> Kernel and a bunch of dtbs.
<apritzel> .its is the common extension for the U-Boot FIT image format *source*, .itb is the generated binary
<duclare> Yup
<apritzel> duclare: how do you select which .dtb to use?
<apritzel> (I typically use $fdtcontroladdr, so U-Boot's DTB, so don't have that problem)
<norton> But even olimage pdf doesn't talk about kernel.itb ?
<norton> https://0x0.st/HxiY.pdf#%5B%7B%22num%22%3A153%2C%22gen%22%3A0%7D%2C%7B%22name%22%3A%22XYZ%22%7D%2C43.9%2C674.339%2C0%5D
<norton> Link to the correspoing paragraph
<duclare> apritzel: Something like bootm addr#conf
<duclare> The itb should have a bunch of configurations that couple a kernel and dtb, if I recall correctly
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<duclare> I assume normally olimex bootloader should pick the configuration based on what board it detects
<duclare> (based on what's stored in eeprom
<duclare> )
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<duclare> And Olimage-guide.pdf section 7.1 tells you how to list supported boards and their ids and how to write config (to eeprom I assume)
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<apritzel> duclare: "bootm addr#conf"> ah, I see, thanks, I only use FIT for bundling U-Boot proper + TF-A + crust + DTBs, not for the kernel
<norton> hmm.
<norton> okay, I'll try olimage again
<apritzel> is that mainline U-Boot in charge there?
<duclare> Not exactly but afaict they haven't butchered it too much
<duclare> Dejavu, didn't someone here recently ask about olimex's use of eeprom?
<duclare> They read it in spl
<duclare> Idk why
<apritzel> duclare: yeah, that was me, I wanted to get rid of that in mainline (because it's apprently not used there)
<apritzel> I guess they could use it to select one DTB from the *U-Boot* FIT image, then skip the whole kernel DTB selection by using $fdtcontroladdr
<apritzel> we do something similar for the Pine64: the SPL detect whether it's the Pine64+ or the "non-plus" version, then uses the appropriate DTB
<duclare> It would be cool to find a way to make all the olimex stuff just supported ootb in mainline somehow
<duclare> idk how feasible that would be
<norton> What about sound support on Olimage? Anything - alsa, pulse, pipewire - just so it works?
<duclare> I really have no idea. I figured most things would just work, but I have never used any olimex board
<norton> And about SATA SSD? When I type `lsblk` in Olimage, it doesn't see my SSD
<apritzel> in general SATA works nicely on A20 boards, at least it does on my BananaPi. Does the Olimex kernel not include the ahci_sunxi driver (module)?
<apritzel> duclare: I am happy to figure something out as well