<Namidairo>
I haven't the slightest idea why my fit image works now when it didn't before and that scares me
<Namidairo>
probably just old broken builds gunking it up somehow
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<Grommish>
neggles: I figred it was late :D
<Grommish>
If OpenWrt was to put an -m64 LDFLAG somewhere (in the build system). Where should I start looking for such a thing? ./include, but anywhere yes?
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<slh>
Grommish: btw. the kernel level FPU emulation on mips is a tad buggy and very, very, very slow (what takes under 5s on even old x86, may take more than an hour using the kernel's FPU emulation) - that's why it's disabled on OpenWrt.
<Grommish>
slh: the SoC has FPU, but it's locked under Octeon2 and higher
<slh>
yeah, sadly it's all or nothing - either all devices support it or it needs to remain disabled (without resorting to a subtarget)
<Grommish>
slh: But, I suspect the issues i'm seeing with Suricata is with Suricata.. Everythng else has worked so far
<Grommish>
slh: *nod* It's a matter of time before it goes source-only.. It should have probably happend this past round unless 5.10 has drastically changed
<slh>
or - if you want to enable hardfloat for the kernel, you would have to enable softfloat (the FPU emulation) as well, to cover your bases on those devices without FPU
<Grommish>
I just got soft-float working :D I don't want to touch it heh
<slh>
;
<slh>
;)
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<Grommish>
slh: Suricata is giving errors, an errant -m64 from somewhere that I don't know where. I suspect it's in their calls somewhere, but I haven't been able to track it down. But, the other rust-lang packages have all worked so far
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<neggles>
slh: IMO the octeon target should be split into at least two (sub?) targets, the differences between the octeon/octeonplus/octeonii/octeoniii chips are huge
<neggles>
Grommish: heh yeah then work was a nightmare today
<neggles>
glad some other stuff is working :D
<Grommish>
neggles: Well, I've got bottom, ripgrep and bandwhich all running now
<Grommish>
neggles: If you get a chance, woiuld you be willing to fix your float-test? I'd still like to use it heh
<neggles>
what fixing does it need?
<Grommish>
neggles: thread 'main' panicked at 'index out of bounds: the len is 6 but the index is 1029', src/main.rs:139:26
<stintel>
nbd: if qosify_dscp_default[2] = { 0xff, 0xff } and I do not have dscp_default_tcp set, how come all non-specified ports are using DSCP value 144 in /sys/fs/bpf/qosify_data/tcp_ports ?
<PaulFertser>
ynezz: hey :) I've seen several reports of people complaining that their multi-bss setup stopped working in 21.02. I suspect that my fix in 39c8bc4422f0404af5b85c10eeb2c4098d919cdb actually broke functionality for some wifi network cards where only the few lowest bits of the BSSID are allowed to differ.
<jow>
I think that could should be updated anyway to factor in /sys/class/ieee80211/*/address_mask
<jow>
s/could/code/
<PaulFertser>
ynezz: I'm not sure how it should properly be handled giving this limitation. It looks like in any multi-bss case "locally administered" bit should be set for all BSSes, including the very first one.
<PaulFertser>
It already takes the mask into account.
<jow>
well, mind of
<jow>
*kind of
<jow>
first and last byte
<PaulFertser>
I'm sure the code was buggy and I fixed the bug but apparently it exposed another bug or limitation in how it's handled.
<jow>
it should probably keep incrementing the base address until incremented_addr & mask != base_addr
<jow>
but given the usually quality of implementations, address_mask is likely not reliable anyway on those drivers that have restrictions
<PaulFertser>
That assumes all vendors know what the mask for that hardware is set to, and allocates enough addresses per board.
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<cholin>
Hey, I don't know if this is the right place to ask but I have question regarding the `uci_file_commit` function of uci. The idea is that by calling this function a uci package/"config" gets persisted on the filesystem. So basically what it does is to check for changes and writes them on the "disk". For this it uses the classic approach by writing it first into a temporary file, then moving it and call fsync t
<cholin>
So I was wondering why there is no fsync on the actual directory. I thought "normally" you follow the following pattern: https://lwn.net/Articles/457667/ (fsync as well the directory in the end)
<cholin>
So shouldn't there be something more sophisticated (with error checking) like the following to fsync the directory as well?
<cholin>
If I'm missing something here I'm happy to be corrected :)
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<jow>
never heard that one has to fsync the directory
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<cholin>
The man page about fsync says "Calling fsync() does not necessarily ensure that the entry in the directory containing the file has also reached disk. For that an explicit fsync() on a file descriptor for the directory is also needed." (see https://linux.die.net/man/2/fsync)
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<jow>
okay, so someone has to extend uci
<jow>
personally I hard about this for the very first time and I'd assume the original implementor of this code too
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<cholin>
ok, thanks. If I find some time in the next days, I'll send a patch.
<jow>
rsalvaterra: ... seems to confirm that is not entropy or time related
<jow>
so either an api misusage in ustream-ssl-wolfssl or god knows why
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* rsalvaterra
bypasses the whole issue by using OpenSSL… :P
<jow>
imho that entire https-by-default business in the context of openwrt is thoroughly broken
<jow>
it introduces way more issues than it solves
<jow>
personally I'd vote for simply dropping it again
<rsalvaterra>
I was never sold on the HTTPS-by-default thing, to be honest. Chickens, eggs, etc..
<jow>
yes, chicken, eggs, volatile libraries, wrong user conditioning, error-by-default etc.
<jow>
also the fact that the tls requirements change faster than the firmware in the field is updated
<jow>
like new chrome or safari versions introducing new cert constraints, validity time caps etc.
<jow>
and at some point flat out rejecting older ciphers, rendering https endpoints inaccessible
<jow>
well anyhow, back to work
<rsalvaterra>
Don't overdo it… :)
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<jow>
... I mean in the end all this nonesense achieves is that vendors push appliance management to their proprietary apps which likely use way less secure communication paths to interact with the target device
<jow>
or have implementation faults impairing security
<jow>
or simply don't do any crypto at all
<rsalvaterra>
Is it *really* a security issue? I don't see it that way, for some reason.
<jow>
you mean being able to access the target by http?
<rsalvaterra>
Yeah. As is not having a root password by default at boot time.
<jow>
right agree
<rsalvaterra>
I mean, it's supposed to be minimally configured before being put in production, no?
<rsalvaterra>
Who is our target audience, really? :P
<jow>
undecided
<f00b4r0>
heh
<jow>
there's a bit of a shizophrenic view on the target audience
<jow>
on the one hand we want to reach power users and give them every configuration knob plus some more to change anything
<jow>
on the other hand we do nannying by writing careful documentation disclamers, force https by default etc
<jow>
maybe its the gui crowd vs. the cli crowd, dunno
<jow>
but I don't think theirs a strong consensus
<jow>
*there's
<rsalvaterra>
Pretty much the idea I had, yes.
<f00b4r0>
gui is convenient, even for power users (I think :)
<jow>
If done properly (tm), that https thing probably needs a very thorough onboarding procedure
<rsalvaterra>
Dunno. I'm a CLI guy. :P
<jow>
like forcing the users through x509 pki setup, import ca on device, generate certificate using explicit user input
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<jow>
etc. etc.
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<jow>
then finally allow access
<rsalvaterra>
God, no. Even I don't want to go through that.
<jow>
anything else is just "click that to make it go away"
<jow>
and browser vendors ffs... since they screwed up the whole business it should be their responsibility to come up with a sane proposal for self-managed https certs
<jow>
but instead stuff is just hand-waved into the cloud
* Borromini
likes the GUI for overview, CLI for management
<ynezz>
yeah, they should implement ssh://
<f00b4r0>
overview is very nice. For basic quick config GUI is also convenient imho
<f00b4r0>
ynezz: +1
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<Borromini>
mpc stop
<Borromini>
sorry wrong window >_>
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<cotequeiroz>
ping ynezz
<ynezz>
cotequeiroz: pong
<cotequeiroz>
I'm going through those wolfssl security fixes. I have done all but one: the client side session resumption issue.
<cotequeiroz>
I would not be so sure it does not break ABI compatibility.
<ynezz>
yeah, thanks a lot for your work, this is really mine field
<cotequeiroz>
I have all other fixes ready, and can send them right away, but it may be just noise without this one. The bad thing is that hostapd makes calls to the affected functions.
<ynezz>
there is ABI breakage, FreeSession(WOLFSSL_SESSION*, int); -> FreeSession(WOLFSSL_SESSION*);
<ynezz>
this is going to be fun
<dwfreed>
dropping a param won't break anything, though
<dwfreed>
you're just now providing a param that's never used
<cotequeiroz>
It's defined in internal.h, so it should not be called from outside.
<ynezz>
ah, ok, missed that part
<cotequeiroz>
My main concern is getting this right--i.e. not introducing a new vulnerability. I am unconfortable applying a new commit to an old version. Many things internally may have changed between them.
<russell-->
is there a good iptables -> nftables cheatsheet or translation table?
<jow>
russell--: I would suggest iptables-tzranslate on a traditional Linux desktop distro
<jow>
it's a python script that translates iptables command lines to equivalent nftables expressions
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<ynezz>
cotequeiroz: yeah, makes sense, so what do you suggest, bumping to 4.8.1-stable ?
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<Darkmatter66>
Hi
<ynezz>
cotequeiroz: having just this two choices: 1. likely break ABI 2. likely introduce new vulnerability, I vote for 1.
<ynezz>
for 1. we can probably check usual suspects, like uclient, uhttpd and hostapd and if it works, we might be good to go
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<Darkmatter66>
Using hostapd and freeradius can i give the user in the freeradius config a 'keyid' so that when runing hostapd_cli with ab action file the keyid attribute is to be passed to the action file
<ynezz>
cotequeiroz: IIRC there was similar bump 4.7.0-stable to 4.8.1-stable done in 21.02 (it's backport?), don't remember if there were some regressions reported
<cotequeiroz>
This has only been fixed in 5.1.0, so it has to go all the way to 5.1.1.
<ynezz>
ah
<cotequeiroz>
5.1.0 has high-severity CVE-2022-23408, not present in 4.x.
<russell-->
jow: thanks
<ynezz>
cotequeiroz: so in other words we should do the same as in 21.02, simply bump from 4.7.0 to 5.1.1?
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<cotequeiroz>
That's what I think. Another alternative would be to just skip the session resumption fix, and hope that hostapd won't fill up the session cache.
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<f00b4r0>
it seems chunkey really doesn't want to understand arguments that don't go his way :(
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<f00b4r0>
fsckin Apple Mail does not honor "reply in same format". *grrr*
<Borromini>
does anyone know if MikroTik's netinstall can be fed OpenWrt images?
<Borromini>
renaming them to .npk certainly doesn't seem to work
<f00b4r0>
Borromini: i don't think that works
<Borromini>
f00b4r0: ok. i am fighting with my RB5009UG that somehow doesn't want to work with BOOTP/DHCP no matter what I throw at it
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<f00b4r0>
sounds odd. Do you have console?
<Borromini>
nope. they disabled it in the bootloader =)
<Borromini>
i won't bug you with any troubleshooting atm, it works for others with the same device so it's very probably something on my end
<Borromini>
been through the openwrt wiki instructions and whatnot but no dice so far.
<f00b4r0>
I haven't laid my hands on any of these devices yet so robimarko is going to be a lot more helpful than I I'm afraid :)
<Borromini>
no worries :)
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<Borromini>
question: i have a CH341a programmer with a SOIC-8 clamp
<Borromini>
can I use that (with a SOIC-16) clamp to manipulate NAND packages?
<Borromini>
this thing really couldn't care less about its reset button being pressed somehow, it seems.
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<Borromini>
mangix: ok. Is there other types of programmers that can do it?
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<slh>
Borromini: there is no easy answer to that question, there is parallel (raw) nand (most typically), serial nand and yes, also some spi based serial variants, but in general, if you mess up the NAND, it's game over
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<mangix>
all I know is CH341A is just for SPI NOR
<mangix>
NAND is a lot more complicated to deal with
<slh>
and very often in bga chips, so not easy to desolder at home
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<Grommish>
rsalvaterra: ping
<rsalvaterra>
Grommish: pong (mobile, though)
<Grommish>
rsalvaterra: Any chance you'd be willing to test a mipsel package later? :D
<rsalvaterra>
Much later. :P
<rsalvaterra>
Which one?
<Grommish>
You can pick, ripgrep, bottom or bandwhich
<Grommish>
Actually, Nevermind, I might just have a test suite by then
<Grommish>
I forgot I need to do that
<mangix>
wonder why ripgrep for openwrt
<Grommish>
Anyway. I built the mipsel toolchain and generated ipk packages
<Grommish>
mangix: Because I needed a POC package
<rsalvaterra>
I have no idea what any of those are. :/
<mangix>
ripgrep = better grep
<Grommish>
rsalvaterra: bandwich is a network monitor, bottom is a better htop
<Grommish>
eipgrep is a .gitignore aware grep
<Grommish>
with eregex
<Grommish>
but yes, I needed a something to test with and it was one of the first rust projects I found
<rsalvaterra>
"Bottom is a better htop." Oh, dear, where to start…? :P
<Grommish>
I have no opinion, it's what was related ;p
<Grommish>
But, in theory, these should run on any mipsel device
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<Borromini>
slh: mangix: thanks
<Borromini>
slh: i'm not really considering desoldering, was thinking about clamps like for SPI NOR so you can manipulate without desoldering :)
<Borromini>
looks like i'll just have to wait for a more robust install procedure for my new toys...