00:48 <alyssa> pentallelogram: yep... Arm gutted the "compiled binary export" feature a few years ago :(

00:48 <alyssa> I think if you go back enough versions you can get Bifrost malioc blobs

00:48 <alyssa> I don't think they ever released Valhall ones

00:49 <alyssa> Next best is using the mali_shader_program_binary extension (forgot the exact name) I think will spit out something in the same format

00:49 <alyssa> (get_program_binary?)

00:49 <alyssa> In fairness I don't anyone other than cwabbott ever used the mbs export feature so there's that :-p

00:52 <cphealy> pentallelogram: Not knowing what your goal is, I wonder if the new on-disk shader cache support with Panfrost addresses your needs?

01:00 <pentallelogram> alyssa: thanks I'll check out those ideas

01:01 <pentallelogram> cphealy: my goal is to ship some software with some precompiled opencl kernels in order to save diskspace with bringing all of libOpenCL

01:01 <pentallelogram> without bringing*

01:02 <cphealy> ack

01:02 <cphealy> I don't know if this is possible, but could you compile the kernels on the device and take the on-disk cached shader/kernel and use it?

01:05 <pentallelogram> I imagine that is possible... it's what i've been trying except instead of grabbing on-disk cache i've been using the OpenGLES.so on this device to compile the kernel and trying to find it in memory via gdb and dumping it to disk from there

01:06 <pentallelogram> I'm worried about the support with panfrost and mesa on android being the issue, since that's the platform I'm working on

01:09 <cphealy> Actually, with the inclusion of the on-disk shader cache, the GL calls for dumping/loading compiled shaders should work too.

03:40 <alyssa> pentallelogram: I am confused. Are you interested in Arm's OpenCL driver or Panfrost?

06:55 <HdkR> Panfrost already has some vram allocation stats right? I wonder how hard it would be to wire up nvtop like how radeon is. That way we could get vram allocation statistics per application in a nice UI.

06:56 <HdkR> Apparently i915 and amdgpu support it through "fdinfo"

14:03 <italove> I have two MRs open for vram allocation stats in mesa, making them work using the gallium hud. And Boris has some stuff for the kernel. I don't think there was anything before that. But yeah, it would be nice.

18:34 <HdkR> italove: Neat! Useful for looking at single applications

23:29 <pentallelogram> alyssa: by "Arm's OpenCL driver" do you mean Mali?

23:31 <pentallelogram> I am interested in the ARM gpus, understanding how they work and how the toolchains sitting on top of them work both mesa, panfrost and other open source tools as well as reversing the closed tools as well :)