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<tleydxdy>
I'm curious, sumoon is input-method-v2 ever merged into wayland-protocols? I thought there's now input-method-v3 too?
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<sumoon>
no it actually not. But many wayland programs implement input-method-v2 including wlroots. But like you said it's not merged to wayland-protocol. So, that could be reason.
<sumoon>
But I think the most important thing is updating input-related protocols.
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<daniels>
sumoon: no important reason, just that no-one has had the interest until now - would be great to see it happen though!
<wb9688>
I suppose I could use my SourceForge e-mail instead…
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<wb9688>
Never mind, it seems like SourceForge stopped with their e-mail aliases
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<pq>
wb9688, the whole point of the email address is that it allows anyone to contact you, if they have e.g. legal questions about your contribution I believe. Another point is that it should be a person identifier no-one else has.
<pq>
wb9688, adding S-o-b is kind of like signing a legal document, and while you don't have to use your "official real name", there must be a handle that is yours only.
<pq>
the "legal document" is the DCO
<wb9688>
pq: Well, I don't have an e-mail address for wb9688, only for my real name that I prefer not sharing publicly, so that's why I always use such a private e-mail on GitHub, GitLab, etc, but I am always contactable on IRC (with a registered nick no-one else has) or on GitLab I guess
<pq>
Personally I wouldn't trust IRC nicks, especially after seeing what happened to freenode, but the question of whether DCO could be signed with a Gitlab.fd.o account name is a good one.
<pq>
email accounts can disappear and get hijacked, too, so I suppose it wouldn't be that different
<pq>
and email providers can disappear also
<pq>
I'm not even sure who to talk about this.
<pq>
wb9688, maybe you could open an issue about the S-o-b maybe alternatively using a Gitlab user handle, but I kinda fear the answer might be "it's so easy create new email accounts, just do that instead". This question might perhaps interest fd.o/x.org since inclusiveness is a big thing.
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<wb9688>
Where should I open that issue?
<pq>
you can start in Weston, and if fd.o/x.org takes interest, it can be moved then
<sumoon>
daniels: thanks, but I think almost work is done on that MR. So, I'm focusing on building new input-method protocol and patches based on that protocol. My goal is improving CJKV input on wayland.
<wlb>
weston/main: Derek Foreman * shells: Add libweston-desktop API to query position and add to shells https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/d615abdffdb0 desktop-shell/shell.c include/libweston-desktop/libweston-desktop.h kiosk-shell/kiosk-shell.c libweston/desktop/internal.h libweston/desktop/libweston-desktop.c
<daniels>
mvlad: so yeah, fontconfig upstream has got a load of bugfixes for memory leaks, which haven't made it into any Debian archives since it's not very actively maintained there; I'd be interested to see if it goes away with an update, or if manually forcing the config lets us add a suppression
<daniels>
still though, it's a hideous layering violation
<pq>
daniels, I suppose you'll rebase the wet_process thing too to make it easier to look at?
<daniels>
the whole pango/fontconfig global state thing just makes me very sad
<daniels>
pq: sure
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<emersion>
yeah :(
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<pq>
daniels, also, are you sure there are no self-standing parts of the wet_process MR that could be reviewed and landed separately? :-)
<daniels>
pq: let me see if I can pull out some prep work first
<mvlad>
maybe the xwayland changes could also be pulled in a different patch set? I've counted a few.
<mvlad>
daniels, not sure, but would it make sense to build fontconfig ourselves?
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<daniels>
mvlad: mmm yeah, it might do if it's really quick and easy; I really don't like having to carry that suppression in CI since it's technical debt, but building fontconfig ourselves seems to also be that, and more complex too
<daniels>
pq: just pushed a branch called wet-process-rebase, with as much as I can frontloaded - pretty much everything which doesn't involve reworking wet_process itself + changing all the users over to the new interface
<daniels>
pq: I'm not sure what's the most sensible cut point - before 'Remove redundant process_info struct' (arguably getting into internals), before 'Rename weston_process to wet_process' (no functional change just a mass regex), or after that commit?
<daniels>
my guess is that it probably makes sense to cut before both commits; I guess it just depends on how the overall diff (rather than per-commit) should look
<daniels>
(and fixed the '32 bytes' typo in the xwl commit message)
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<toothe>
Hi all! I am trying to understand xinput. When I run `libinput measure touchpad-pressure` I get an error saying `libinput: measure is not installed`
<toothe>
Is there something I need to install to get it?
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<bl4ckb0ne>
8/b 11
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